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Angel Moms speak out, about border crisis

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by kazenatsu, Jan 20, 2019.

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  1. Mac-7

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    What sort of 100% nonsense are you giving us?

    After the wall is built there will be plenty of other things that need to be done

    But if its trump doing them you will complain
     
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    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2019
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    Simple question: how many illegal alien killers would have been stopped by a wall in the last 10 years?
     
    bx4, Jan 21, 2019
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  3. Mac-7

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    Unknown

    But real border security would have prevented most of the killers from getting here

    And the wall is an important part of border security
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2019
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  4. AFM

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    It's absolutely true. Why do so many people want to come here ??
     
    AFM, Jan 21, 2019
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    Angel Moms are just pawns in democrats quest for power.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2019
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    "Unknown". And then you assert that "real border security" would have made a difference.

    Those two statements just don't go together. You have no idea if ANY of the illegal alien killers would have been stopped by a wall, or even by any increase in border security.
     
    bx4, Jan 21, 2019
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    We know there are up to as many as 30 million illegals in the US

    And we know some of them are murdering American citizens

    However they got here all of them need to be deported so they cant kill again
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2019
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    Did you just say illegals don't victimize Americans? Really? FBI statistics about drug sales, crime and murder would disagree. Look them up please.
    And an illegal can go to any hospital and get care for free. Hospitals can't turn them away and can't 'force them to pay. So WRONG again.
    Illegal children can't' be turned away from attending our schools....for free, since they can't possibly pay enough in taxes to offset the cost of schooling.
    Voting? That's a bit tougher to prove, but Democrats have made it very clear they want to remove proof of citizenship as a requirement for voting. GO look it up.

    So maybe educate yourself a bit before commenting. You'll look smarter next time=)
     
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    No. I said that was not DNC policy.
     
    bx4, Jan 21, 2019
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    That sadly is D action.
     
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    You mean Reagan was wrong with OBRA? We can see now his interference has long term and drastic effects on our society today.
     
    Yulee, Jan 21, 2019
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    oh my now its gods fault:rolleyes: what a pathetic spin job
     
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    How many of these 30 million illegals will a wall remove from the country? Zero
    How many of these 30 million illegals would a wall have stopped? “Unknown”

    Border crossings are down and the vast majority of illegal immigration occurs ar checkpoints or by visa overstays. Y’all are actually making an argument against the shutdown but are too partisian to see it.
     
    cd8ed, Jan 21, 2019
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    But thoughts and prayers worked at Sandy Hook. And Orlando. And Sunrise. Why aren't they enough with MS13 violence?
     
    Pants, Jan 21, 2019
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    The wall is there to help make sure 30 million never reaches 100 million

    The wall by itself is not enough

    But neither is sensors and empty promises by open border swamp rats
     
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    Visa overstays are a serious problem too

    Not 50% yet

    but if we finally get real border security that is the next problem to solve
     
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    So if the wall isn’t enough... it isn’t going to stop the 30 million already here... most new immigration is visa overstays and checkpoint crossings... immigration is at a low...

    So to you that means shut down the government over 4 billion for a wall...
    That you just admitted isn’t enough...

    That makes perfect sense
     
    cd8ed, Jan 21, 2019
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    They need those votes and they need them badly.
     
    BuckyBadger, Jan 21, 2019
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    cd8ed, Jan 21, 2019
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    If your basement is already flooding, we bother fixing the leak?
     
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    Thousands of Americans are dead, because the Democratic Party refuses to protect the nation's citizens.
     
    HB Surfer, Jan 21, 2019
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    It means fund the wall

    If dems refuse then the government will remain shut down
     
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    Which leak would you fix first, the one that accounts for 63% of the water or the one that at most accounts for 1/3 of the water.

    If your spouse said let’s fix the biggest one first would you lock the door and refuse to do anything to she agrees to patching the smaller leak that might not even work?
     
    cd8ed, Jan 21, 2019
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    Like I said, that makes perfect sense...

    This is trumps third shutdown — more than any president in modern America.
     
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