Turkish interior minister says Turkey spans from Damascus to Medina

Turkey’s interior minister told a rally of supporters that the Turks were the grandchildren of a great civilization, adding “we are not just Turkey,” and referring to other cities and countries in the Arab world, as he made a campaign stop in the southeastern Kurdish city of Diyarbakir to shore up support for the Justice and Development Party (AK) ahead of local elections later this month.
“We are not only just Turkey, but also Damascus, Aleppo, Kirkuk, Jerusalem, Palestine, Mecca, and Medina,” said Turkish Interior Minister Suleyman Soylu during a rally in Diyarbakir city, according to a video and translation posted on Twitter by the Nordic Monitor.
“We are the grandchildren of a great civilization,” the interior minister added in his rally speech.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...ays-Turkey-spans-from-Damascus-to-Medina.html

The Sultan's dream .. & desire to return back to the Ottoman empire

 

That minister will get Turk support but zero Arab support.

 

He ain't gonna get Greek support either. The Turks are claiming all of Cyprus, the Aegean islands, Crete, Thrace, Thessaloniki and so and so forth. The situation is quite serious, especially now with the gas find in Cypriot waters by Exxon Mobil.

Anyway I don't know what going on there, because from bits and pieces it seems that a major person in the AKP party is Albanian and Turkey has made an (Ottoman?) pact with them as well as with Kosovo. In the meantime I read there's a civil war going on in Albania, and the EU warned them that if they don't stop they will take over the government.

Okay, so now Brussels wants to make colonies of states outside the EU as well as inside. So what else is new?

 

As for the Kurds, I read that at the peace talks in Socchi, they asked to have the name of Syria changed from Syrian Arab Republic to just the Syrian Republic. That way no ethnicity is mentioned since the Kurds are not Arabs. Fair enough!

 

Obviously the dude thinks of himself as a Muslim first and Turkish second. That speaks volumes.

And why do Muslims have to be such Ego maniacs and A-holes most of the time?

 

As time goes on, it will be become more and more clear that RUSSIA will decide what Turkey "is" and what Turkey "is not". Certainly, in that part of the world, the U. S. has become a broken reed, blowing in the wind. From 'behind the scenes', Russia controls what goes on in ALL of the Black Sea, much of the Eastern Mediterranean, Syria, and yes... Turkey....

Erdogon likes to give himself 'airs' as though he's some kind of reincarnation of Atatürk, but in Moscow they just smile....

. "Let's see now... how many times have we whipped Turkey's ass? I lose count...."

 

You forgot to mention that Russia also controls America via their puppet Mr. Trump.
Man, that powerful Russia!

 

error

 

Trump is Putin's "puppet"...?!

Oh, then tell us all why it is that Trump just got through pulling the U. S. out of that I.N.F. missile arms-control pact with Russia (which Russia had cheated on repeatedly), and, why Trump angered and frustrated his 'puppet-master Putin' (according to you) by approving a $10.5 BILLION DOLLAR Patriot anti-missile system sale to Poland! Link: https://www.dw.com/en/us-and-poland-strike-105-billion-missile-defense-deal/a-41433719

I look forward to your reply, which I expect will be an overflowing treasure-trove of informative proof to back up your contention. Otherwise, I'd suggest that instead of writing this kind of baseless, empty crap you spend more time researching the FACTS....

 

Erdogan must be the most frustrated leader in history. He keeps trying to get his foothold in Syria and other places, but to no avail. Vladimir Putin saved his life, and Erdogan knows that behind the assassination and coup was Nato and the CIA. So as long as Erdogan's the head of Turkey Russia is in control.

But what happens if he falls, and the next leader favors Washington? What will hold that leader back since Erdogan has only said and done what the Turkish people want? The only history they know is what they have been taught in school. So they feel they have been treated unjustly - especially by Britain, and that the Middle East, the Aegean and the Balkans should be theirs's.

That the people living in those areas are not Turkish doesn't matter, after all they ethnically cleansed all the Christians in Anatolia and repopulated it with Turks, so why not do the same to the Kurds, Shias, Christians, Jews and everyone else as well?

 

Russia controls Black Sea....east Med, Turkey, etc........sure they do!!!

 

And we control the Carribbean, North America, South America, Central America, Europe, Japan, South Korea, South Pacific and I could go on and on.

We won!

 

He said whats actually true and nothing about Ottoman Empire or restoring it, its talk about the Muslim civilization. Btw I dont like Turkey's foreign or internal policy, I know it has some expansionist ambitions but this is not the case.

 

Trump has lost the presidency to the deep state and warmongers. Our country is now in the hands of Bolton, Pence, and Pompeo. No sooner was our elected president ready to make the deal of the century and establish peace with N. Korea, than Bolton pops up and ruins it by making more demands.

The media finishes off what Bolton did by demonizing Kim over Warnbier.
Seems like Pence, Bolton and Pompeo feel they are the only adults in Washington, and know what's best for our country - like nuclear war perhaps.

 

The Turks never say they want to rebuild the Ottoman Empire, but their actions say otherwise.

 

No, they don't. When the Turks return in earnest, the Russians are going to scatter, assuming they're still even in the region.

No, we haven't. We're the only reason the Turks haven't already taken Syria, or at least most of it, by now.

Absolute nonsense. The French and British have more power in the Eastern Mediterranean than the Russians.

Notice that it took the Russians years to get involved in the Syrian Civil War. Meanwhile, Iranians and Hezbollah had done all of the hard fighting to keep the Assad government from collapsing.

Europe (including Russia and Turkey), as well as East Asia, are about to face significant economic woes. The three countries that are going to get hit the hardest are Germany, Russia, and China. This will be the moment in which the Islamic world will find itself in a stronger position vis a vis Europe (including Russia) and China. The Gulf Arabs, Egyptians, and Central Asians are going to throw their lots in with Turkey, which will find itself as the leader of a wide coalition.

The Ottoman Empire is not going to return, that kind of imperialism is untenable these days. But the truth is that "leadership" is often a synonym with "empire."

 

At present, I would disagree with you on this. In about another ten years or so, at the rate the U. S. is wrecking itself in our growing political civil war, Russia and China in an alliance together may accomplish the dominance you describe, but it will take a while yet....

Still, it is very impressive to see the scope and scale of what Putin has accomplished, militarily, politically, and economically in the past five years... and the Chinese "Belt-and-Road" initiative has been thoughtfully deployed in a most intelligent way, too. Meanwhile, over here in the U. S., we spend our time trying to pin blame on whoever paid for Donald Trump to have sex with some worn-out, old "sex star", and to 'cover it up'....

My German friends howl with laughter at the immaturity, stupidity, and naivety of the American public for being so obsessed with this kind of silly crap....

 

Arabs are pretty cynical people, politically.

That's why Ba'athist dictatorships and oil aristocracies still exist.

 

I will disagree on much of your reply, but politely. Also, truly, to even suggest that the wholly-corrupt French or the chaos-embroiled British have the most control over the Eastern Mediterranean is frankly ludicrous.

Moreover, the Russians are certainly no strangers to Syria... they've had a permanent Russian Navy base at Tartus since way back in the days of the Soviet Union.

Lastly, I would agree with you that Germany is in for some very hard economic times before long. The "AKK" phenom is not going to be able to defeat the growing backlash forces that have been building in the Bundesrepublik during all of Merkel's many repeated blunders. What's ahead for Germany then? A series of stunning changes, in which Germany (with France) assumes an even greater control of the EU, and forms tighter economic relationships with both Russia and China!

Hint: the Germans aren't going to want to buy much American liquified natural gas at 200% - 300% more than the Russians are going to charge for it, delivered right to Germany's "front door-step" via a pipeline (instead of LNG having to be shipped halfway around the world from Coos Bay, Oregon and unloaded at expensive, new, yet-to-be-built terminals).

 

Nordstream II is 70% complete and there is talk for a Nordstream III. I dont know if Germany or the EU is gonna partner up with Russia, they are political rivals. This is just trade, nothing else.

 

Honnestly, if they manage themselves better with an ottoman empire, good for them, as long they're not a threat to Europe, I don't really care.

Even if it's difficult to consider positive relationship between a muslim entity and an european one.

 

I didn't claim that they had "the most" control, just more than Russia.

The Russians probably could break out of the Black Sea if they only had to worry about the Turks, even then it would be a difficult and costly war.

But of course, many Western nations, namely the United States, would assist the Turks in such a war. As it stands, if Russian ships are leaving the Black Sea, it's because the Turks and Americans are allowing them to.

If American bases existed in Central Asia for decades, would you consider that a significant fact? I wouldn't. The fact of the matter is that projecting force into Central Asia requires some level of cooperation with the Russians. It's like the "if the Russians are there it's because we're allowing it" but in reverse. In Central Asia, we're on their turf. It's not as drastic a power differential as between Russia-US in the Eastern Med, but one nonetheless.

I expect not just a tighter economic relationship with Russia, but a diplomatic and political partnership, with Russia likely joining whatever Franken-EU the Germans hold together.

But all along the periphery of the EU discontent will bubble over. Italians and Iberians will resent German economic bullying, Scandinavians and Central Europeans will feel threatened by the burgeoning Russo-German alliance, and the French will have both dynamics at play.

I don't expect the French to allow themselves to be lead around by the Germans. The French were too proud to be mere puppets of the Americans even in the face of the massive threat posed by the USSR.

Indeed they aren't. And that's already making a lot of Europeans nervous. How nervous are they going to be when the European Dream lies in ruins around them? Hint: Very. Expect countries like Sweden, Poland, and Italy to bend over backwards to get more American boots on their soil.

 

The Germans care very much about maintaining the European Dream and European solidarity. They're willing to break those principles over the matter of Nordstream. This is more important than just some minor trade deal, this is a peek into the real interests of Germany.

The fact of the matter is that we Americans offer them nothing but heartache, while the Russians offer them cheap natural resources and cheap educated labor, two things the Germans have trouble attaining anywhere else.

 

They will be a threat to different Europeans actors at different times and places.

Realistically, there are two matters over which the Turks and Europeans might come into conflict. One is the massive borderland stretching between Turkey and Russia, with a mish-mash of Christian and Muslims populations living in pockets surrounded by the others, and the vital matter of control of the Caucuses. The second is between Turkey and the West, revolving around Western treatment of European Muslims. Not just recent migrants, but the long-standing Muslim populations in the Balkans.

Almost certainly, these two flashpoints are going to erupt. Whether they amount to open warfare between nation-states, it's hard to say.

But, as always, the Europeans are a greater threat to themselves than the Turks could ever hope to be.

 

Why haven't you heard about the "Russian collusion"?
Relax, Pollycy, I was being facetious.