NY Times: Mueller Report More Damaging Than Barr Let On

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He had no reason to believe that at all and the issue is with a foreign AGENT that is any foreign person and that being said Steele was just an intermediary they knew it was Russia they were paying to get the dirt from. If I pay someone to kill you I am guilty too. AND we don't know if she was acting of behalf of the Russian government and she has denied it. We DO know she met with people for Fusion GPS just before the meeting and just after the meeting. So who do you really think was trying to set up the Trump campaign?
     
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    Who's running?
     
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    The 'grey lady' was once a good newspaper but surely you must have notices its' slide in the last few decades and stark insanity once Trump was elected?
     
  4. PrincipleInvestment

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    IG Horowitz is still actively investigating FBI / DOJ leaks. I hope Horowitz finds this leaker and hangs him out to dry. There's no reason for Nadler and his PSYCHO-phants to be chompin' at the bit crying foul.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    If there even is one we don't even know who is the person claiming that an associate of theirs heard from someone in the investigation or their credibility. They don't even say what the claimed disagreement is. But so what? A couple of members on the team don't think the summary is "tough enough" do they believe it showed collusion and obstruction of justice and Mueller and Barr and Rosenstein are lying about it?
     
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    I have not noticed that...and I doubt it is so.

    It is a fine newspaper...the best, in my opinion.

    American conservatives do not like it very much because it does what their FOX News pretends to do...present fair and balanced NEWS.
     
  7. Zorro

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    He's right of course. The Dems are putting on a show. The last thing they want is the full Mueller report released, because then the question will be: "Why Was The Nation Put Through This Blizzard Of Lies For Two and Half Years?" And that leads to Obama's Oval Office and they do not want to go there.

    So they will put on a show for their rabid base, while being careful not to piss Barr off enough that he appoints a Special Counsel to look into Obama's misuse of our Counter Intelligence Agencies against a rival political campaign.

    Attorney General William Barr should release as much of the Mueller report as possible, as soon as possible, because the public has a right to see what all the fuss was about. BUT, if he determines that some information within it is either classified or subject to grand jury secrecy rules, he is duty-bound to redact it. Unless Congress passes a new law waiving grand jury secrecy rules, then existing laws protecting that secrecy take legal precedence over Congress’ subpoena authority.

    Congress does remember that they are the branch that passes laws?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...bpoena-isnt-legit-without-impeachment-inquiry
     
  8. PrincipleInvestment

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    Oh ... it ain't about the total lack of substance in the leaked material. Who cares about this op-eds contents? The leaks are prosecutable, not the opinions themselves. Like I said, Horowitz is still actively investigating and this idiot is leaking? Horowitz needs to set an example. Either quickly ID the clown, or fry McCabe in his place. That's long overdue anyway.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    It's a rhetorical question. To believe it one has to believe Barr and Mueller and Rosenstein all have to be liars. Is that what they believe now?
     
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    Of course not. Nadler wants to perpetuate the "cloud of suspicion" narrative right up until 2020. If he can't succeed in that, he's at least laying the groung work for judicial intervention. Nadler has to provide compelling reasons to unseal grand jury transcripts. "Public interest" will be his KEY argument. Whip up the base, and have MSM amplify the noise. This is the (D)'s Hail Mary play.
     
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    Lol. Trump never said the noise causes cancer now did he. He was mocking the industry as he often does.
     
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    But Trump has nothing to hide.....

     
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    Says in the email that she was a Russian government attorney.
    On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

    Don

    Hope all is well

    Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday.

    I believe you are aware of the meeting - and so wondered if 3pm or later on Thursday works for you?

    I assume it would be at your office.

    Best

    Rob Goldstone

    This iphone speaks many languages



    On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

    How about 3 at our offices? Thanks rob appreciate you helping set it up.

    D
     
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    If they release the entire report and block out only one word, the democrats will swear the proof of collusion with the Russians is in that one blocked out word. If they reveal that last word, the democrats will swear the proof of collusion with the Russians is written in invisible ink.
     
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    You know Mueller's team said that Mueller wrote 4 summaries that he included in his report, and that those summaries were written specifically to make them appropriate for immediate release to the public, right? Right.

    So what you're saying is that Mueller wrote summaries for the public, and now says they aren't appropriate for the public.

    The story of Mueller helping Barr is bogus. Ever hear of "fake news"? That's what you're spreading.
     
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    Zero contribution to the discussion noted.
     
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    I ... I really can’t come to terms with the apparent lack of mental capacity , or down right schizophrenic delusion of some of these posters.


    Really guys? The old “ anonymous sources said Drumpf did something”. Does none of this really not seem familiar?(they ran with this kinda bullshit for 2 years dammit!)At what point do you acknowledge that some of you are akin to a doomsday cult.
     
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    Lmao yea people deriding journalist for wantonly using “anonymous sources” to either push an opinion or for more revenue , are like people being fine with someone willing to carry out genocide.

    Your whole diatribe seems like you were trying to be theatrical,but you come across as a tad unhinged.
     
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    See EVEN you are BLATANTLY lying here. Barr's cover up letter SPECIFICALLY SAYS, the report does NOT exonerate Trump, and yet you'd like to bury that of course. It will come out. Eventually Barr will likely be disbarred, maybe indicted.

    He got away with sweeping Iran-Contra under the rug, he won't get away with it twice, I know you desperately hope so, but you're wrong. Flyover country foolishness is all it is.
     
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    "NY Times: Mueller Report More Damaging Than Barr Let On"

    that doesn't surprise anyone
     
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    Of course not. Fake news from the NY Times is no surprise.
     
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    Trump and his admin are the fake news kings

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    I can't believe they ran this garbage. It's not just anonymously sourced, but indirectly anonymously sourced, nothing more than second hand gossip.

    The special counsel’s office never asked Mr. Barr to release the summaries soon after he received the report. The Justice Department quickly determined that the summaries contain sensitive information, classified material, secret grand-jury testimony and information related to current federal investigations that must remain confidential.

    Mr. Barr will not depart from Justice Department guidelines not to disclose derogatory details in closing an investigation like that stretched out piece of crap Comey to Crooked Hillary Clinton in 2016 denouncing her while announcing that he was recommending no charges in the inquiry into her email practices.

    Mueller himself is working with Barr to redact the report. If Mueller didn’t think it needed to be redacted, or that the summaries were ready for release now, there’s nothing to prevent him from saying so directly and publicly. At the very least, Mueller would not cooperate with Barr if he thought the AG was dealing dishonestly with him and the report.
     
  24. PrincipleInvestment

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    Any quotes from Mueller that you could provide would be great BTW. But nothing prevented Mueller from making a public release prior to handing Barr his report. If Mueller had a sanitized summary he should have released it. Barr says he's not releasing Mueller's report piecemeal, and given the entire report will be released in 10 days it's a moot point. But you did say I was spreading "fake news" so I'm really going to need to see those quotes from Mueller. So I don't inadvertently spread your "fake news" about Mueller
     
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    Hands up - don't shoot, Kavanaugh is a serial rapist, the dossier, Michael Cohen traveled to Prague, Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, buzzfeed story and dozens of other left wing hoaxes tell us otherwise. Proof is in the pudding, not in your bogus left wing propaganda.
     
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