The Taliban have WON in Afghanistan... (really?)

the reality is, the Taliban spent very little to cause 9-11, we spent trillions in our response.... sadly I think this worked our better then they could of wished for

so when everything calms down, i think others will be tempted to poke the bear again, trying to financially destroy us

 

No!

Get Out,
Then Discuss
Just like Brexit should.

Bravo Boris
The next PM of Britain.
Brexit now then discuss.

 

The US has spent a lot of time and money training and equipping the Afghan gov't. But that gov't doesn't want to die to defeat the Taliban, so they keep asking us to do it.

 

Just like Vietnam, the bad guys / baby killers are leaving

 

If they did not learn how to fight and defend, than I dunno how you explain that the Taliban is there very much present in Afghanistan. FYI.. the Taliban are Afghans.

 

I thought liberals got over their vilification of Vietnam vetrens a while back.
They were clueless then and are still clueless.

 

In my opinion, the reason no one succeeds in Afghanistan is because they do not want to be rid of the Taliban or any other Muslim power. They do however want everyone else to leave.....Middle Eastern culture is something best left alone unless it tries to play in western civilization. Even those few who do leave for the "Good Life" bring their Islamic negativity with them.....especially how they view females.

 

That's just it. They did play with western civilization.. many times.

Ohh we have forgotten that which we proudly proclaimed we would never forget.

 

A perfect summation from my understanding.
Yes, others in this thread note the place is better today than it was before we came. The problem is, the people themselves do not want it that way. Time to leave as, we never should have stayed in the first place. Terrorist come back? Bomb the schlitz out of them again and make them not want us to return. But we are not good nation builders/peace keepers where the citizens want barbarism and not peace.

 

Yes, they are! Like the Zionists are Jews but rule Israel. Or the Catholics are German but ruled Germany until Martin Luther stood up to them.
So, what do you suggest how the Afghans should deal with the Taliban fanatics?
One thing should be clear... it is not America's job to violently interfere. And I don't believe that was their aim of the past 18 years anyway. The Taliban put up a resistance to the American take-over and exploitation. That is what the war was all about.

 

O.k., whatever you say!

 

Germany can sing a song about that!!


A RAPE EPIDEMIC. Growing numbers of German women and very young girls across the country are being raped by Muslim immigrants. At this rate, Germany could bypass Sweden as the Muslim rape capital of Europe. Not surprisingly, many of the rapes are being downplayed by German authorities and the national media, apparently to avoid fueling anti-Muslim immigrant sentiments.

https://barenakedislam.com/2015/10/24/guess-what-else-muslim-refugees-are-bringing-into-germany/
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But let's be fair...

GIs were no saints either when compared to the Red Army soldiers, where violating hapless German women was concerned.
An important point is that their commanding officers just looked the other way when instances were brought to their notice. Maintaining the prestige of their unit was more important than protecting German women or disciplining their rowdy fighters. Their thinking was "those folks deserve it anyway". A typical mindset of a victor. Whether it be "gooks" in Vietnam or "yellow bastards" in the WW2 Pacific War. The end result is more Abu Ghraibs.

https://uncensoredhistory.blogspot.com/2015/07/american-soldiers-raped-german-women-ww2.html

 

yeah well. We know how the Americans treat immigrants. They make them sleep on the concrete floor, drink out of toilets etc. No doubt they massacre them when they go abroad like they did in Vietnam.

 

Oh, really? Created a suitable puppet government to take orders from the US?
The latest:
US-Taliban talks for peace in Afghanistan: What we know so far
The seventh round of talks begin, days after the US says it hopes for a peace deal before September 1.

United States officials and Taliban representatives are meeting in Qatar's capital for a seventh time since October in a bid to end the 18-year war in Afghanistan.

The latest round of direct talks, which got under way in Doha on Saturday, is focused on four key issues:
a Taliban guarantee that it will not allow fighters to use Afghanistan to launch attacks outside the country,
the withdrawal of US and NATO forces,
an intra-Afghan dialogue and
a permanent ceasefire.

The Taliban government was overthrown in 2001 by a US-led military coalition for sheltering al-Qaeda, the group blamed for the 9/11 attacks in the US. (apparently a lie like the WMD in Iraq).

The Afghan government, however, is not involved in the talks as the Taliban has refused to negotiate with it, deeming it illegitimate and a "puppet" of the US.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/taliban-talks-peace-afghanistan-190510062940394.html
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Every country destroyed and then resurrected by the Americans has a Washington-obedient government, starting with Germany after WWII. Also, said countries will have at least one military base with a good number of American soldiers present... forever!

 

Yes, that could very well be. The Taliban are an integral part of Afghanistan. But aren't they the only ones who fight the American occupation? I seem to recall that about 2000+ American soldiers lost their lives there over the years. That must hurt!
Let's wait and see what will come of the peace negotiations the two warring parties are presently holding. My careful guess is that the Americans will keep their military base and a certain amount of soldiers present indefinitely... kind of a foothold.

 

The Taliban are the Afghans.
Your question is as dumb as asking "how do Americans get rid of the GOP?"

 

Not really appropriate when nazi's are killing politicians.

 

Thanks for the compliment! Perhaps you can answer the question, why does the Afghan government ask the Americans to fight the Taliban for them?
Answer: They don't want to die!

In 2015, Amnesty International reported that the Afghan Taliban had engaged in mass murder and gang rapes of Afghan civilian women and children in Kunduz.[16] Taliban fighters killed and raped female relatives of police commanders and soldiers. The Taliban also raped and killed midwives who they accused of providing forbidden reproductive health services to women in the city.[16] One female human rights activist described the situation:[16]

When the Taliban asserted their control over Kunduz, they claimed to be bringing law and order and Shari’a to the city. But everything they’ve done has violated both. I don’t know who can rescue us from this situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Afghanistan
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That is the kind of folks they are. Which country needs them?

 

Ahh, you know something about the Nazis I don't.
Example, please.

 

You cant conquer ideology. The only way would be to kill em all. And that would make you just as same as them.

People have to understand, Afghanistan is a clan society. They do not care what the world thinks about them or what reputation they have. The only interests is the benefit for their clans, they have no patriotic feeling towards the country as people in other countries do. Islam is no1 the rest is not important. They do not care what happens in a remote village 20miles to the east, if a school has been built there or if a factory is setup so people can work. You can spend 100 years trying to help them it will never happen. Just as with the gypsies in Europe, you can pour millions they will continue to live their way of life.

But the American is to stupid to understand this basic thing.

 

It's the US puppet regime.

1 in 3 in Afghan jails get tortured. Things done against it: nothing
https://www.afghanistan-analysts.or...-report-on-the-torture-of-security-detainees/

 

The nazi's executed Walter Lübcke, a German mayor.
There is a kill list around even.

 

Sorry for budding in, but I truly think you and Joseph got it wrong... not that I can't understand your reasoning, it is your country after all and you are standing behind its good intentions.
Unfortunately, I have to leave for a while, so, I will leave you the link I have in the mouse:

The Real Reason for the Afghan War?

https://whowhatwhy.org/2012/09/10/the-real-reason-for-the-afghan-war/

 

AOC is a liar. I do not believe her one bit when it comes to being forced to drink from toilets.

Concrete floors yeah maybe so. But only because democrats told them to come here and now that there is a flood of them the Democrats will not pass the funding to take care of them .. cruel bastards.

 

You obviously have a problem with religions, yet as we see, the religion of Leftism is attempting to normalize pedophilia. More abuse happens in schools than Christian churches, Don't personally know how bad it is in Muslim mosques.