Whistleblower's Lawyers Say Trump Has Endangered Their Client as President Publicly Threatens

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    This one is very political. It would be much less divisive if the Dems could point to something substantive, such as the Watergate cover-up, instead of looking like they are wanting to impeach the prez with or without cause. Don't you believe that impeaching DT for political reasons will cause a serious political fracture in our country?
     
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    McCain was his colleague, friend and a fellow moderate but he chose to vote for a liberal based upon skin pigment.
     
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    How many white presidents have we had and how black presidents have we had?

    The election of Obama was historic in a country with a history of racism.

    How many of your buddies did you criticize for not voting for him because he is black.
     
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    I don't know anyone who would not vote for him because he was black. I don't believe the way to fight racism is with more racism.
     
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    Where did he say that was the basis of his vote?
     
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    He raved and cried about electing a black president, crossed the aisle to vote Dem. Let's agree that voting for someone because of skin color is racist by definition.
     
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    I don’t think that’s why Colin voted for Obama and I don’t think it’s racist even if it was based on his race
     
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    Favoring someone based upon the color of their skin is pretty much the definition of racism. It sounds like you just believe that some racism is good racism.
     
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    That’s not the definition, and in a nation that's never elected anyone but white men, I think it’s acceptable to want some diversity.
     
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    Sure sounds to me like discrimination directed towards a person based upon their racial group - racism. So you wouldn't consider it racist for someone to vote for McCain because he is white?
     
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    If we had never had a white president? No I wouldn’t consider it racist.
     
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    Why did trump seek assistance from a foreign government against his domestic political opponent while simultaneously and unilaterally holding up hundreds of millions in military aid?
     
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    Getting assistance from our allies seems like a good thing. I don't know that the hold in military aid was related - believe we were trying to get more assistance from other allies especially Germany, which is something I totally agree with.
     
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    Well it is racist by definition but I understand why some would consider it justified racism.
     
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    No it’s not

    rac·ism
    /ˈrāˌsizəm/
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    noun
    1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
      "a program to combat racism"
     
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    Whistleblower's Lawyers Say Trump Has Endangered Their Client as President Publicly Threatens.

    Probably true. I wouldn't want to be the whistle blower if, in fact, one exists.
     
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    I was looking at a diff definition that does not require the belief in superiority:

    "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."

    So you then wouldn't consider it racist to vote for McCain because he is white. If a person doesn't hire someone because they are black, that is not racism just so long as they don't consider whites superior?
     
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    Not at all. If and when Trump is bounced, he will fade from memory like a stale fart in the wind. Then the GOP faithful will start trying to distance themselves from him and his idiotic antics within days of his dispatch. It will also prevent either party from ever nominating a blowhard crackpot like him ever again. Getting rid of Trump ASAP will benefit both parties and the American people immediately.
     
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    Why would Someone vote for McCain because he’s white, but not out of racism? What reasoning?
     
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    Not that you will admit anyway.
     
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    I believe anyone who votes based on skin color is voting on racism so perhaps you should ask someone else.
     
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    Absolutely no one but I bet you know some that voted based on skin color.
     
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    Assistance from a foreign government AGAINST a domestic political opponent.

    And while you may not know that the military aid was related, it is still a fact that trump unilaterally and simultaneously had placed a hold on that funding. He also did so against the opinions of every one else in government, both within and without his administration. And he did so without providing a public justification to anyone and then, when he did, he offered several different and conflicting reasons.
     
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    I actually thought of a reason....fearing the country isn’t ready for a black president or fearing for his safety for the same reason.
    That’d be a non racist reason to vote for McCain because he’s white.
     
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    Correction:

    A legal request to a head of state to look into the our then vice president's admitted interference/blackmail in the affairs his country.

    Get it right.

    Running for office is no grant of immunity for blackmail.
     
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