This is how we should revamp the US school system.

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  1. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    This is based off the German system.

    16 year system
    Grades 1-4 Preliminary school
    Students learn the basics of Math Reading/Writing Science and History. Plus the basic extra curricular classes students take.

    At the end of each year they take a test with 60% being passing and the grade being accumulative.

    The split
    At the end of the 4th year, students are split into, one of 4 groups
    Intellectual-Those who scored 90% or higher average on the finals tests
    Proficient- Those who scored 80-89% average on the finals tests
    Basic- Those who scored 70-79% average on the finals tests
    Trade- Those who scored 60-69% average on the finals tests or those who failed to pass out by 12

    The smartest group is taught the abstract concepts and the top level of each subject, plus get 4 years free of university. They are taught to become masters of the subjects. When they graduate they are given a Degrees that mark them as educational elites and the best the nation has to offer.

    The second group takes on what would be considered basic college level classes today. They learn enough to be successful in the fields but are not masters of said fields. They go through 12th grade and then their schooling is finished unless they pass a final exam with 90% success bumping them up to university.

    The basic group learns all practical uses of the subjects, they are the "street smart" group, basically they are taught how to apply Math science and reading to daily life. Their schooling ends after 8th grade.

    The final group is send to trade school for 4 years and then sent off to work. They are the group that is not intellectually capable of continuing school. They become the "blue collar"/trade workers.

    The 3rd group lea
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The last thing we need is a "class" system.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    We already have one, but this one would be merit based instead of inheritance/who you know based.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The only trouble with that is that you have no provision for people who just don't test well, late bloomers, and burn outs.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Not much can be done for the top tier for testing as those are the elites and well yeah they need to be at the highest caliber accomodations can be made for levels lower though including having them read to them if they are for level 3/4. As for late bloomers they have till 12 to pass 4 grades that is 6 years (6-12) and well those who burn out would benefit from this because if someone is a burn out going level 3 or 4 would be best for them.

    PS under this system I would be in group 3.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...So you advise segregating kids for life by their abilities in the 3rd or 4th grade?
    You know nothing about the developmental potential of children, do you?
    By your asinine formula, Einstein would have been relegated to ditch digger since he was very slow to develop as a child.
    The best strategy is to make all education free and available to anyone who can meet the requirements for a particular course of study without prejudice or time limits.
    We need to develop everyone's potential because there are going to be lots of challenges with automation and AI making lots of jobs and careers redundant.
    Someday, when all the mindless jobs are automated and people are free to pursue and develop their natural talents, we can devote ourselves to solving the world's problems and exploring the unknown.
    We will never run out of things to study and learn.
    Albert Einstein wrote, “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Nice idea, but the public won't go for it. We simply don't like the idea of government enforced hierarchies.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense. The public already engages in social hierarchy. They would all benefit from a better education.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    About 25 years ago, I was a teacher at a high school that was in process of becoming a health sciences magnet school. (I was there for the planning of this as well as the first year of the magnet). I was a science teacher and part of the curriculum committee, that was composed of teachers at the high school, instructors from the local votech school (post-secondary), school admins and parents. We had a really good curriculum set up with three different levels. The highest level would have resulted in students having a great start on any health career. The problem was that for it to work, the students would have had to be on that track at the beginning of their tenth grade year (due to prerequisites, etc.). The parents in the group rejected it. They wanted the kids to have the opportunity to change up until the beginning of their 11th grade year. It was next to impossible to produce a great science curriculum with that limitation. Parents don't want their children tracked.
     
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    Your offspring would still be locked in and not be able reach beyond their class.
     

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