Public education is a socialist monopoly, a real one. - Milton Friedman

Now Beto wants to take away tax exempt status from churches who don't push the gay agenda.

 

A clear case of pathological altruism.

 

I hear ya. Professor Walter Williams says that the average teacher graduated in the bottom third of their college class. He further states that the college major which scored lowest on their SAT tests, on average, was education, followed closely by sociology.

 

The problem with using test scores is that those tests are norm-referenced from the population. If the test has the same name, SAT, say, then it changes every few years and gets renormed. You would expect renormed test scores to remain flat theoretically (and in practice it is pretty flat). This isn't a really good thing to use to compare 1970 to 2006 for that reason. In addition, there is no universal test being given to all students in the U.S. every year.

 

Indeed, teachers' unions everywhere squealed to the SAT authorities that test scores were going down. It wasn't fair. The teachers were "good." So SAT dutifully dumbed down the SAT test and gave everyone who could sign their name a hundred points just for starters. That kept the historical SAT test from plummeting in the last few decades.

 

How about if we force public school students to say a Christian conversion prayer? The SCOTUS just said that was OK when it comes to Muslims:

https://www.foxnews.com/faith-value...een-forced-to-write-islamic-conversion-prayer

One more reason to homeschool.

 

I completely disagree with this ruling but it is the crux of allowing or demanding your religion be allowed in the public sphere. Do you have an issue with “in God we trust” printed on all US currency?

I disagree with homeschooling as it frequently produces lower results than our abysmal public education system.
If you cannot send your children to private school — don’t have children.

 

What does abortion have to do with tax dollars going to religious schools?

 

I don't think ANY tax dollars should go to religious institutions. I'm a firm believer in separation of church and state.

 

Well thank god not many people take Milton Friedman seriously as his ideas have been proven to fail in the real world time and time again.

https://www.gse.harvard.edu/news/ed/17/05/battle-over-charter-schools

Not really though?

 

We have separation of church and state, not faith and state.

 

Not usually. If there were Muslim hospitals here who knows what they would do about forcing conversions. Jews do not try to convert.

 

Milton was rightbabout thete not being any free lunch.

 

st least those kids get educated

 

related thread, if you want to get some idea how dysfunctional the public school system is these days: Police coming into schools, arresting children for misbehavior

 

Eh? The state shouldn't have a faith. You don't agree with this? You must mean something else.

 

If having a faith means a religion then no the state cannot have a religion.

 

What? Come on even Beano cannot be that whacked out, can he?

 

Then you are a clear thinker.

 

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah about that.


https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/23/business/23scene.html

https://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2006/11/milton_friedman_1.html

He was also the guy who came up with the concept of the "Negative Income Tax", which people earning below a certain amount receive supplemental pay from the government instead of paying taxes to the government, regardless of whether they are employed or not.

 

The concept of giving people something guarded came out about the Rev War by Thomas Paine. Well both Milton and Paine were wrong on that deal.

 

That really doesn't change the fact that Friedman endorsed, or at the least, supported what amounted to "Free Lunch"

 

There is a large number of people in America that cannot survive without assistance. Welfare assistance comes in hundreds of different forms, private, local, county, state, and federal. Do you expect decent, caring human beings to step over starving people roaming the streets?

What Friedman was advocating was the far more efficient process of letting the people buy food and necessities for themselves, instead of having countless bureaucracies inefficiently trying to accomplish that.

 

Didn't I say that Friedman was wrong? Answer = YES. EOS!