Flagrant Violation of House Rules, Pelosi Bans Crenshaw from Seeing Schiff's Secret Transcripts

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  1. Promise Hero

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    Wrong. Most polls show that the American people by numbers that are still growing favor the impeachment process. Also The constitution says nothing about the order of the procedures you mentioned above. The House will have take a vote at some point that's perfectly understood which renders your out rage as mostly propaganda. You have no concern about the massive issue that Trump-A-Dump is literally defying the constitution by attempting to deny the House witnesses and documents. Also look out. The Mueller report is being revisited regarding the release of grand jury testimony and the fact that patho-Trump prevented Don McGann from testifying in front of Congress about his confession to Trumps obstruction of justice orders in the Mueller report. A confession he has never rescinded.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, the Constitution does not give all the power to the Speaker of the House. It says, the "House of Representatives", not the controlling party, but the entire house. This implies a vote and what the Democrats are doing in secret is nothing but wrong. To watch all of you Leftists support a hidden operation fraught with lies and deceit, like the Whistle Blower going to Schiff's office before the DOJ or IG is against the Whistle Blower rules. The inability of the Republicans or White House to call witnesses that exonerate him completely like Senator Johnson, or review sworn testimony from people like the Ukrainian Prosecutor tells us this is a Banana Republic / Soviet style coup that only degenerates could support in this form.
     
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    More propaganda as this post deliberately leaves out the facts that republicans in their committees are present during this investigative part of the impeachment. - Also this propaganda post won't tell the truth that Republicans will be able to call witnesses during the public hearing portion of the investigation. The reason for this temporary closed door session is that The Republicans would like nothing better —— if witnesses could tailor their testimony to other witnesses. But the real danger is this chronically sick president consistently trying to block witness and documents while claiming he has nothing to hide It's it's too late because the President is the least trusted in modern history and the American people have caught on which is why by ever growing numbers Americans want to see him impeached.
     
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    Well, I must tell you that anyone who resorts to childish name calling, as you have, is someone who I'll waste little time with. The man is the President; your President, and calling him stupid names is something which has no place in a mature discussion of important issues.

    The fact of the matter is that there is a precedent for putting it to a vote before moving forward.

    Remember when the Democrats whined about Trump not releasing his tax returns? "There's a precedent for it" they said. "It's always been done." they cried. Well, if they don't want to out themselves as a pack of lying hypocrites, and want to show themselves to be honorable people, they will adhere to the precedents which came before them and Pelosi will put it to a vote.

    But they won't do that. The Democrats, in the House, and Pelosi and Schiff in particular, are dishonorable people and little more than a fecal stain in the shorts of this great nation...
     
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    Lol your post represents the kind of misinformation that Trump foists on the American People and his followers. There will be a public session during the impeachment process where republicans can call witnesses and ask question.
     
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    The impeachment process is not based on precedent but if you can show where the constitution says it is I'll be glad to look at it.
    Also you're sadly misinformed The rules written by the Republicans in the 2015 impeachment of Bill Clinton state that the initial process can be done in secret. There is no rule or precedent that states the House has to put it to a vote before the investigation phase is over. It's only trump fans who want this because as more truth comes out from witnesses the worse it is forTrump. But if I were you I would worry about a lying president refusing to obey the constitutional right of the House to conduct an impeachment investigation. Trump claims he has nothing to hide but at.the same time keeps trying to block witnesses and documents. What a pitiful mixed up liar.
     
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    Whoa there Einstein I am no leftist all I did was show you there are no rules in the Constitution as to the process of impeachment. I can’t help it if you don’t like the form or style it is being done so keep your trash talking to yourself sweet checks.
     
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    I'm gonna' bet that you were among those who said Trump should release his tax returns, weren't you?

    So, you're saying that Bill Clinton was impeached in 2015 and I'M the one who's misinformed??

    Look, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you're making it glaringly obvious that you're woefully ill-prepared to engage me in this discussion.

    Thanks for the morning laugh, Chief. It's been fun...
     
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    Whats fun is watching you twist in the wind because they are following the rules and you don't like it. Well too ****ing bad. This may pain you to know, but Trump isn't a king no matter how much he or you may want it to be true.
     
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    Nancy P has turned the once proud House into the Beer Hall Putsch
     
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    Watching Leftists turn Fascist daily. It's no wonder they changed the dictionary definitions over time to try and claim Fascism was a "Right Wing" element, which is clearly not true.

    Secret hearings from a bogus "Whistle Blower" with false information, that illegally met with Schiff's Office before the DoJ and IG. It is fair for EVERYONE to know who helped this "Whistle Blower" besides Adam Schiff's office. We need to get all the treasonous bastards together and get them out in one fell swoop. It's likely more Obamites.

    This ends very badly for the Democratic Party.
     
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    Lol I did make a mistake but you're pretending the entire post is wrong because of it. The fact is so far you haven't addressed any of the solid arguments in that post because you don't have the where-with-all.

    But Judge Napolitano a contributor to FOX corroborates my views perfectly and shows you to be the misinformed amature you are:

    https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-judge-shuts-down-republicans-impeachment-complaint-1465960
    "We have a mindset that this is a trial, and a trial is public, and the defendant is there, and the defendant has his or her lawyers and they are challenging what the government is doing. This is not a trial," asserted Napolitano, who previously served as a New Jersey Superior Court judge. "This is the prosecutors interviewing their witnesses, and that procedure never takes place in public because you want privacy and you want candor."

    So now that we've dispatched with your joy ride on a single mistake in my post quit stalling around and debate my post point for point.(of course you'll offer another B. S. excuse.)

    My previous post:
    Also you're sadly misinformed the initial impeachment process can be done in secret. There is no rule or precedent that states the House has to put it to a vote before the investigation phase is over. It's only trump fans who want this because as more truth comes out from witnesses the worse it is forTrump. But if I were you I would worry about a lying president refusing to obey the constitutional right of the House to conduct an impeachment investigation. Trump claims he has nothing to hide but at.the same time keeps trying to block witnesses and documents. What a pitiful mixed up liar.
     
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    So it has been close to a week and nothing has emerged from the accusation about House Rules violations. Why? I know why ! Because there was no rules violation this is why.
     
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    The Constution only demands that the entire House vote on the Articles of Impeachment. It is entirely silent on how the House acts before it decides to vote on the Articles of Impeachment.

    But dont worry, the public phase of the impeachment inquiry will come soon enough and then you can bitch and moan about some other aspect of the process as another poor substitute for defending trumps behavior.
     
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    You only missed it by 17 years.

    No reason in the world to pay attention to anything else...
     

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