House Democrats zero in on 'abuse of power' in Trump impeachment inquiry

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That should be interesting unless the results of the FBI, CIA, and Biden investigations absorb all pubic attention.

    Which reason for impeachment will they use as an excuse?
     
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    What the Democrats are doing is against precedent and unethical. They are operating as a banana republic would.
     
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    Where does he say that Trump withheld US funds from Ukraine unless they resumed the investigation of the Biden corruption. That's what the whistle blower second hand allegation was.

    The behavior of the Democratic Party is unethical and disgusting.
     
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    This has been tried again and again. Most were sure that Comey and H.Clinton would be behind locked doors. It's a sham and the public is hotly focused on Trumps impeachment not this sham investigation by the hack.Barr.. By the way the Mueller report is being looked at again. It seems that Trump (the Liar/butcher) refused to let MgCann testify before congress about Trump's order for him to obstruct justice. McGann was Trumps White House lawyer and has never recanted his testimony in the Mueller report. Also the State of New York is hot on the trail of Trumps faulty building permits and his attempt to doge taxes in that state.
     
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    LOL... what Biden investigations? We ain't doing any and Ukraine isn't doing any...

    I'm going with simple Abuse of Power (Ukraine) and Contempt of Congress (I will fight all the subpoenas)... Anything else will get confusing...
     
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    John Durham has changed his inquiry into a criminal investigation.

    Trump was writing his own building permits in New York ??
     
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    At the same time (aprox.) Obama was hanging out //// "attending"//// Occidental College in Eagle Rock, CA. - not exactly doing 'collegiate' things... lol

    (yes - I attended Occidental College decades later, lol...)
     
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    Factless again.
    Do the words pressure and quid pro quo mean any thing to you. That's all it takes to impeach. No one has to literally say "if you want defense missiles you'll have to prosecute Biden.. Your opinion on this is amature, ignorant, and sophomoric.

    quid pro quo
    [ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō]
    NOUN

    1. a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
     
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    A sham investigation by a Hack AG. who sent papers to Trump's lawyers which said the Mueller Report was flawed 20 days before he read it and before he was chosen AG. . Comey and H Clinton are not behind bars and the public knows this is a another sham investigation.
    Lol where did I slay that? Oh yeah you have to support Trump by making up false questions that imply something I never said. another example of your fear to really debate.
     
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    The latest theory now is that Ukraine is being pressured to prosecute Biden ??

    Can’t make this up. As the inquiry falls apart the allegations get stranger and stranger.
     
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    Democrats are very worried about Durham.

    That’s exactly what you said - “Trump’s faulty building permits”.
     
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    You're quite sure of that?
    I'm sure they'll try their best to think of something.
     
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    Exactly. You do that when you buy a loaf of bread.
     
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    Lol the inquiry is falling apart, now that's the kind of pure propaganda that can only be made up. So far Tailor Soundland and others have Trump hanging by a rope. Also the public realizes Trumps pitiful attempts to block witnesses and documents while at the same time claiming nothing to hide.


    Now let's look at Bill Taylor:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Taylor_Jr.

    "Fort Bragg, and for 18 months with the 101st Airborne Division during the Vietnam War. Taylor was a rifle company commander in the 506th Infantry Regiment (United States) of the 101st Airborne, widely heralded from the World War II book and TV miniseries Band of Brothers with their motto "Currahee," meaning "We stand alone."[7] He earned a Bronze Star Medal and Air Medal with 'V' for VALOR for heroism.

    Later, he was an aero-rifle commander in the 2nd Cavalry Regiment (United States) in Germany.[8]

    In 1980 Taylor was serving in the relatively new Department of Energy as Director of Emergency Preparedness Policy. While the DOE had received creditable marks for its response to the coal strike during 1977-1978, the crisis in Iran pointed to the need for better federal level contingency planning and preparedness going forward. In taking on this new assignment, Taylor had a long term, rather than short term, focus on potential crises (e.g. price controls and gasoline rationing), efforts that often required coordination with other federal agencies, including the United States Department of the Treasury, the Office of Management and Budget, the Council of Economic Advisers and the United States Department of Health and Human Services.[9]

    Thereafter Taylor served for five years as Legislative Assistant on the staff of U.S. Senator Bill Bradley (D-N.J.). He then directed a Defense Department think tank at Fort Lesley J. McNair.

    Following that assignment, he transferred to Brussels for a five year assignment as the Special Deputy Defense Advisor to the U.S. Ambassador to NATO, William Howard Taft IV. From 1992 until 2002 Taylor served with the rank of ambassador coordinating assistance to Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union, followed by an assignment in Kabul coordinating U.S. and international assistance to Afghanistan. In 2004 he was transferred to Baghdad as Director of the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office.[10]

    Until 2006 he then was the U.S. Government's representative to the Quartet's effort to facilitate the Israeli disengagement from Gaza and parts of the West Bank, led by Special Envoy James Wolfensohn in Jerusalem. The Quartet Special Envoy was responsible for the economic aspects of this disengagement.

    Taylor was nominated by President George W. Bush to be United States ambassador to Ukraine while he was serving as Senior Consultant to the Coordinator of Reconstruction and Stabilization at the Department of State.[11] He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on May 26, 2006"

    He is a faithful long time public servant compared to Trump who went bankrupt while spending his adult life avoiding taxes and cheating on his wives
     
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    Taylor’s statement fell apart. He mentioned Biden twice. One instance was in the transcript which is publicly available and the second time was third hand hearsay. You have nothing.
     
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    Lol.
    You think bribing a foreign country to look into a rival American politician before sending them badly needed defense material is like buying a loaf of bread. your post is a loaf of bread.
     
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    Maybe if the behavior of the scumbag you worship wasn't unethical and disgusting, the Democrats wouldn't have to be doing what they are, which is completely ethical and necessary.
     
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    That’s funny. You say the unethical behavior of the Democrats is ethical. Can’t make that up.
     
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    Thank you for your groundless factless propaganda opinion. The American people already know Trump is an inveterate liar claiming he has nothing to hide while at the same time blocking documents and testimony. He did the same thing with Whitehouse lawyer Don McGann's testimony but now that' being revisited.
     
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    First of all, you would have to distinguish what it is you are personally bargaining for and not what might be in the national interests of the United States.

    Second, there could be no other plausible explanation which would include national interests.

    Third, there would have to be proof that the other party knew of the conditions.

    First issue... strike one AKA US-Ukraine Treaty

    Second issue... strike two AKA several reasons including Biden's public admission of bribery

    Third issue.. strike three AKA Payments had already been started prior to the conversation

    Another false flag because not one of the conditions can be met.


    But personally, I would love for the Dems to try to buffalo the public where both sides of the story would be on C-SPAN

    Then we would be able to observe some real glass jaw moments.
     
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    The only one who has met the legal conditions for bribery is Joe Biden himself.

    The transcript actually vindicates Trump because there was no mention of funds whatsoever and there is evidence that Ukraine had no knowledge of any delays.

    Schiff got the timeline wrong and actually accused Trump of something that couldn't be logistically possible.
     
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    Completely ethical would include having open hearings in the judicial committee where potential impeachment proceedings are supposed to take place.
     
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