First set of Iowa Democratic caucus results shows Sanders and Buttigieg leading

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  1. guavaball

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    Ok by now there is no way this is still at 62%. My opinion and it is pure opinion is that Bernie won and the establishment is holding onto the records until after the nightly news.

    Conisdering this was all done before manually and on paper and still made the same day with the results there is no way it should take this long unless its intentional.
     
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    It's just funny to see the Democrats go "orange man bad", but "We'll show you an election not seen since Joseph Stalin". Talk about cheating in the elections.
     
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    My understanding is that there were three basic numbers: 1) the initial count at the beginning of the caucus, everyone voted for one of the entire list of candidates, and candidates surviving the cut had to be above a basic percentage of all attendees. 2) the count after the cut. Some people just went home and didn't participate further. Some stayed. That changed the math for the third phase. 3) the final delegate count, adjusted by various factors such as Democrats in elective office, Party officials, size of turnout in that country, etc. That's where the "magic occurs." That process is reasonably complex ad the greater the complexity of any system increased the risk of failures. Engineering-wise, the software should have run an "Failure Mode Effect Analysis" (FMEA). I am betting they didn't.
     
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    SOTU disruption? And Biden miraculously won.

    Won't be surprised.
     
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    When black people have to choose between Buttigieg and other dems, they choose other dems. When they have to choose between Buttigieg and Trump, they will choose Buttigieg.

    And then there's the many votes Trump will lose because people like you continue to use homophobic slurs against Buttigieg. But please. Keep doing it. I want moderates to distance themselves from you.
     
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  7. US Conservative

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    Trump has relatively high approval levels from blacks and hispanics.

    The dems core constituency is black females-many of whom do not like gays.

    Iowa has few black people, and Bootygig was despised by local blacks when he was mayor.



    There is speculation Bootygig did so well (by DNC released numbers) to keep his votes from going to Bernie.
     
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    Black wont vote for a confuse Buttigieg. How can any man look at another man hairy butt and like it?
     
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    Id like to know what butigeig stands for but i cannot get on his website without giving him my email address , that in itself is a scumbag move.
     
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    interesting, I've never tried. if he wins some more eventually I'll look, i.can always give them my cousins email instead :)
     
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    When does the DNC give Sanders the gas pipe?
     
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    As soon as its convenient.
     
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    The Dems need to just let Sanders go for it. What have they got to lose at this point?
     
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    America.
     
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    lol yeah ok bud. America would be perfectly fine.
     
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    Biden's plummeting numbers is due to the fact that even most Dem Party voters KNOW that there was Biden/Ukranian corruption and because clearly Biden's mind is going. Very soon now the MSM will receive orders from the corrupt DNC to 'discover' one of the NON-Sander's candidates and promote him or her as the new leftist political messiah. Bet on it.
     
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    Not if Democrats do the things they promise
     
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    Yeah, it might get better. Not having to navigate through your insane healthcare system would be a vast improvement on it's own.
     
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    My healthcare system?
     
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    Sorry, I'm assuming your American. If your not, disregard.
     
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    Who exactly can the corrupt DNC tap? The village mayor can't win the South, or actually can he win anywhere but IA? Nobody knows, he's totally untested outside the fewer than 20,000 votes he got in two mayoral elections. Warren has no shot, way too many credibility/integrity issues, which leaves Klobuchar and Yang. Neither is actually viable though, looks like they dust off Hillary or go full commie. Either way a total disaster in Nov. This is going to be hilarious...
     
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    It will be Warren or the billionaire who just 'rented' the DNC. As for Warren's problems; those will all go away overnight if the MSM discovers her 'political brilliance' and begin promoting her as the second coming of Barack Obama. The Dem Party's voters will at that time, obediently fall in line. But will it be Warren or Bloomberg?
     
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    Neither can win the general, and if they promote Bloomberg they are tossing the village mayor under the bus, and right now he's the Rockstar of the party. They needed Biden to beat Bernie, Biden failed in spectacular fashion, now the DNC has ZERO leverage on Sanders. This whole thing will start to fray at the edges when the billionaire and the socialist share a stage and pretend there isn't an ideological elephant in the room. When Bernie wins enough states to become the nominee, the DNC will officially become the Socialist Party of America, because there is nobody to stop Sanders. No matter what the corrupt DNC does now, they are at the socialists mercy or a totally broken party. Either is acceptable to me...
     
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    The beauty is that the Dem Party is screwed either way and increasingly even Dem Party voters are becoming aware of that looming reality. It's going to be a fascinating convention.
     
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    It will be an even better clown show if its contested. That's a real possibility, seems some of those candidates could pull a state here or there to slow Sanders down, but none can really take him head on. This election and the liberal inane hatred of Trump might actually break the party for decades to come.

    The biggest mistake the DNC ever made was letting a socialist on the stage with Hillary. All premised on manufactured polls that promised she would win, now the DNC has a socialist monster problem with no escape plan in sight...
     
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