Florida man labels boat ‘TRUMP’ after blocked from flying Trump flag on dock

Like bringing a Nazi flag into the conversation?

 

Not really, the question was “I wonder if you would be so demure if it was Germans flying Nazi flags?”
But I understand, it is a difficult question.

 

As an example as to why heritage is sometimes not something to be proud of. You wouldn’t understand.
Or maybe you do and you just disagree...

 

It was a very creative deflection attempt. Unfortunately, it did not erase the hypocrisy that came before it. You really had no choice but to go nazi after that comment.

Personally, those flying a nazi flag would be doing so to get a reaction out of me. Reacting to their symbol gives them the control they seek and I don't feel that they are worthy of such control. Why would it have to be Germans? What about Irish, neo nazi, lesbian, skinheads? Would that make a difference?

 

Zero hypocrisy and no deflection but I can see why you would steer in that direction.

The German nationality was included because it is the only group that can immediately claim heritage. Other groups can also if their family participated so it wouldn’t be limited to them but it is a pretty good starting point.

Why do you believe the only reason someone would fly a Nazi flag is doing so to get a reaction out of you?
How do you know it isn’t heritage and not hate?

 

You said: "it is usually prejudice not pride, or outright ignorance." about a group of people. That more than qualifies as hypocrisy. Going nazi did not help you.

My comment was really just pointing out that your reaction is the issue, not their symbol or identity. You can't read their minds, so try to stay in control of yours.

 

I think this is freakin awesome.

 

Actually I said, “I grew up in the deep south and reside in the south — it is usually prejudice not pride, or outright ignorance.” Which means from my personal experience it is typically true.

If I have to use extreme examples to show how absurd the narrative is so be it, some reflect on the idea and other’s use it as a tool to avoid an uncomfortable acknowledgment. It is apparent which you have chosen.

As for your last sentence, you said “Personally, those flying a nazi flag would be doing so to get a reaction out of me.” meaning you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of... And you talk about hypocrisy...

I am sure there are exceptions and people flying the rebel flag and using nazi iconography at armed protest were doing it to celebrate their heritage of murder, slavery and treason. Great people on all sides.

 

I know hyperbolic BS when I see it and call it what it is.

 

It's his dough he can waste it any way he wants.

 

Hyperbole was my intention because subtly doesn't seem to work here — but hurray for your reading comprehension improvements!

 

Funny how many people are triggered by his patriotism!

 

Congrats on cultivating your ability (or so you imagine) to troll others! Hurray!!!
Meanwhile, try not proving Godwin, correct. This thread is about a boat some rich guy, had "Trump" graphics, applied to.

 

I think he's a patriot.

 

I don’t believe you understand what trolling is if you believe it is making extreme but similar examples to make a point because some act like they are too dense to comprehend the issue — as you continue to deflect.

If you want to whine about the thread being taken off topic feel free to follow the thread back to discussions of civil war.

 

I know. Taking your personal experience and then projecting that onto an entire group is prejudice. You're nazi deflection was addressed and your misunderstanding has been clarified.

Getting back to the topic, this boat owner has every right to display a Trump boat if he chooses. Like displaying the battle flag, those who are offended are the problem.

 

prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/

1. preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience

By definition, my personal actual experience with the issues does not meet the definition of prejudice.
It is personal experience, perhaps stereotyping — but not prejudice.

It has not, it has been deflected over and over again.

I agree

Are people that had family members murdered by the confederacy the problem? How about the the people that their family was the focus of the war to keep them as slaves? Are they also the problem?

Are Jewish people the problem when they see Nazi iconography or people flying their flags?

Odd narrative you have where the victims are the issue and the bullies are the ones in the right.

 

Just ramble on about Nazi flags and densely imagine there are remote similarities. Might as well call the boat owner a Nazi too, while you are at it.

 

Since you have no actual experience with 99.99% of these people, your comment is well within the definition of prejudice. I don't believe that comment defines you as a person the same way someone with a flag or a Dukes of Hazard lunchbox should not be judged the same way.

You will have to start a nazi thread and invite me.

 

Why would I call the boat owner a Nazi — I have seen no suggestion that he supports enslaving people because their race or religious beliefs, maybe you can point it out?
Or are you saying that trump supporters believe any of the above?

If you cannot see the similarities between flying a flag that was flown representing a state movement to become an independent so that they could enslave people of a certain characteristic — killing over 620,000 in the war to be able to do so — and a national movement that sought to enslave and eventually murder people of a certain characteristic; then you likely are looking for excuses to not see those similarities.

But again, I understand your need to deflect.

 

Again, it does not meet the definition of prejudice as my opinion is based on actual experience, including friends and family members that fly the confederate flag (and a few that have the flag tattooed on them). Out of three dozen or so I can only name one that could claim “heritage”.

I agree though, this has gone way off topic instead of being addressed by a simple response to the question.
Seems some are uncomfortable with the similarities and have moved to insults and the deflection dance.

Cheers

 

As I said, I understand your need to deflect.
Your defense is noted
The discussion can end now

 

Pretty slick looking; back in WW II that would have made an excellent target for a torpedo!

 

Do you always accuse others of exactly what you are doing? I pointed out bringing a nazi flag into the discussion has nothing to do with this boat and I'm the one who is "deflecting"? Do you have any idea how silly that sounds? lol. Have a nice day, by.

 

You would be correct if your statement was only about those with whom you've had experience. Your comment was about most of the group.

"it is usually prejudice not pride, or outright ignorance."

Your comment is well within the definition of prejudice, and in pointing it out, I made sure to note that I didn't think your comment defined you as a person. If you are amending it to apply to only those with whom you've had experience, thats fair enough.