If COVID proves anything, it's that doctors can't be trusted to be truthful

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  1. Lil Mike

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    Even more untrustworthy, the Lying Outlaw Regime in China.

    COVID-19: China says Wuhan wet market was site of ‘superspreader’ event, not ground zero. Yup. It leaked from the lab.

    What elevated this from “oh, the annual rumors of a new disease outbreak in China” to “holy crap, better pay attention” was the Chinese government’s own rather dramatic response.

    Hypothesis: They knew it had leaked from the lab, but weren’t sure yet which infectious agent had leaked from the lab, hence the dramatic response, more appropriate to a much deadlier disease.

    Second hypothesis: From this, we can assume that there is a worse infectious agent in that lab. Or at least that there was.
    Our medical "experts" were starting with a pack of lies from Lying Outlaw China, and our medical "experts" are much more confident than skilled.
     
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    Ever since the practice of medicine became at least 50% government over the last 60 years (Medicare and some other factors), no, of course not, trusting doctors generally is like trusting any other branch of government, a monstrous error with possible deadly results. Now if we could only get women past a certain age (and lots younger too) to pull a chair to the adult table and not see doctors as some special, flawless, emissaries from on high, we might be able to approach meaningful reform. Medicine is a business, and doctors don't deserve some special respect for being in business, and for being the beneficiary of a long, expensive -competition stifling monopolistic process- sold to the gullible public as "training" towards "public safety and welfare."

    A vast majority of doctors in the U.S. today are essentially bureaucrats, and medicine as a whole is a jobs program in which the goal is never corporate efficiency or concern for patients but mixed government-crony graft. Break a bone or the like? Sure, they can still do that, but anything else? Good luck with that coin toss, and good luck getting ANY medical care as a younger person not on welfare without spending WAY too much for it while everyone else gets it for free.

    Anyone who tries to cite the U.S. medical system as "capitalist" or a function of "corporatism" instead of the GOVERNMENT boondoggle it in fact is is either a moron or a liar, no c answer.
     
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    What was their "contradictory" statements?
     
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    So I understand from your post that CDC said face-masks are now mandatory.
    Isn't it because of the relaunch? Before relaunch, keeping distance was easy, but now wearing mask is a must since keeping distance is not possible.
    Anyway, 1st priority is distancing, and masks can complement distancing.
    But when distancing becomes difficult, you only have the option of wearing face-coverings, which alas will lose their effectiveness after a few hours, even the high-end ones, N95 masks, which are to be reserved for use by medical staff.

    From CDC website:
    I see nothing new here. Face-coverings are better than nothing.
     
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    being a football coach, I've known that for years.
     
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    Scroll up. They've been posted.
     
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    They lied. They downplayed the importance of N95 masks when they realized that Obama had used up 75% of our national stockpile in 2009 and never replenished them. And the Trump Administration, in 3 years, never figured that out, and replenished them.
     
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    Well, if you want to make that argument it makes officials look even stupider. It was obvious pre symptomatic and asymptomatic infected individuals were driving rates of infection at least a month before the mask wearing recommendation.
     
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    How many moving parts does a mask have?
     
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    Someone needed to say that the supply is low, and until all frontline medical professionals have what they need, you can't have an N-95 mask, scrap and scrape to get the best other mask you can.
     
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    I don't trust anybody I don't know. I don't know "doctors" I know several individual doctors. Some I trust with my life, some I'll never see again.

    The difference for me has been a good doctor views their job as to serve you, while a bad doctor views you as an injured farm animal - theirs to treat.

    Doctors work FOR YOU, or at least theyre supposed to.
     
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