Judge Told He Should Sentence Flynn, Deny Request To Dismiss Case

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    "The judge presiding for Michael Flynn’s case was told by the former prosecutor he appointed to advise him that he should deny the Justice Department request and move towards sentencing Flynn.

    The former prosecutor, John Gleeson, who also is a retired judge, told U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan that the Justice Department’s reasons for wanting the case dismissed were contradictory and were disproven by previous filings in the case.

    “They contradict and ignore this Court’s prior orders, which constitute law of the case,” Gleeson said of the DOJ’s new reasons for why the case should be dismissed. “They are riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact.”

    Gleeson described the DOJ’s explanations for dropping the case as “not credible,” saying that it was involved in “corrupt, politically motivated dismissals.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/michael-flynn-john-gleeson-amicus-filing-justice-department
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    Despite the fact that this was largely predictable, Gleeson's point is no less valid. The arguments made for dismissal have been addressed and rejected in previous filings.
     
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    Good! I don't want it dismissed. All of the FBI corruption needs to be brought into the spotlight.
     
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    Gleeson said it was an ABUSE OF POWER BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. A GROSS ABUSE OF PROSECUTORIAL POWER to benefit a political ally of the president!!
     
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    Which is exactly what it was. More evidence the DOJ has been corrupted under Barr.
     
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    Hahaha ... what a joke. It will be reversed in NY minute.
     
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    Don't bet any vital organs.

    The SC doesn't like being messed with.
     
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    Flynn was asked at least twice if his guilty plea was in any way coerced each time he said NO!!!!
     
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    Everyone knows they threatened to go after his son. I’d do the same for my son.

    Weaponized government sucks.

    The Deep State sucks.
     
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    Clearly everyone does not know?? What was his son supposed to have done....his crime???
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Using Flynn Jr. as leverage didn't make Flynn plead guilty, his guilt did.
     
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    From Gleeson's filing............available using this link.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

    "First, “the requirement of judicial approval entitles the judge to obtain and evaluate the prosecutor’s reasons.” United States v. Ammidown, 497 F.2d 615, 620 (D.C. Cir. 1973). Here, the Government’s statement of reasons for seeking dismissal is pretextual. The Government claims there is insufficient evidence to prove materiality and falsity, but even giving it the benefit of every doubt—and recognizing its prerogative to assess the strength of its own case—this contention “taxes the credulity of the credulous.” Maryland v. King, 569 U.S. 435, 466 (2013) (Scalia, J., dissenting). The Government’s ostensible grounds for seeking dismissal are conclusively disproven by its own briefs filed earlier in this very proceeding. They contradict and ignore this Court’s prior orders, which constitute law of the case. They are riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact. And they depart from positions that the Government has taken in other cases. While Rule 48(a) does not require the Government to bare its innermost secrets, it does require a statement of its reasons for dismissal. See Ammidown, 497 F.2d at 620 (explaining that this requirement “prevent abuse of the uncontrolled power of dismissal previously enjoyed by prosecutors”). Leave of court should not be granted when the explanations the Government puts forth are not credible as the real reasons for its dismissal of a criminal charge."
     
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    Who threatened Flynn's son, for what crime??
     
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    Defenders of all things Trump know Flynn Jr was being looked at for participating in crimes while he was working for dear old Dad. Using Jr as leverage to get Flynn to cooperate in return for a guilty plea and a reduced sentence is prosecution 101, nothing untoward about it.............as Gleeson has pointed out in granular detail.
     
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    Question should be asked of Dirty Donald why he chose a person who was in the employ of Russia and Turkey to be his National Security Advisor???
     
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    I have zero faith in our legal system. It no longer represents what is right and wrong, only winners and losers.

    General Flynn is being charged with lying to the FBI about a legal conversation he had. He was charged while a rabid political party was in panic because a non swamp creature was elected head of the swamp. The same swamp that had illegally spied on that candidate and now President. Anyone above partisan politics can rationalize what has been happening and what is right and wrong. The prosecution of General Flynn is wrong.

    Notice I used the word swamp. It consist of all political parties and all colors of people who want to enrich themselves while enslaving the rest of us. I can’t believe I am watching this country turn to ruin but we are folks. Just look around.
     
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    It always smelled like a back door pardon attempt with the goal of escaping accountability.

    Flynn should be charged and go through sentencing. If Trump wants to pardon him, pardon him. Don’t corrupt the entire system because you’re a snowflake.
     
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    Imagine that! Who'd thunk it!
     
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    He was appointed (illegally) to make this argument. Means nothing and is factually and logically incorrect anyway
     
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    The legality of the conversation does not nullify the fact that Flynn lied, admitted to lying, apologized for lying, took responsibility for lying, and plead guilty to lying.
     
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    The idea that no case exists is a fiction conjured up by Billy the Bagman.
     
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    He wasn't employed by either of them. His lobbying firm had a client named Kamil Ekim Alptekin, who is a Turkish businessman with ties to the President to Turkey
     
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    But then, not once but twice withdrew his guilty plea, after the Mueller team's hiding of Brady evidence and lies to the Court was exposed.

    The fact of the matter is he is not guilty of anything.
     
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    WTF? Barr has lost his mind.

    DOJ: Courts Can’t Hold DOJ Accountable If It Drops A Case For Corrupt Reasons
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckr...ntable-if-it-drops-a-case-for-corrupt-reasons

    The Justice Department defended its decision to drop charges against Michael Flynn at the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday, arguing broadly that any scrutiny of its decision would wreak havoc on the department.

    U.S. Deputy Solicitor General Jeff Wall cast the argument in stark constitutional terms, suggesting that the judge in the Flynn case had already damaged both the Justice Department and the judiciary by subjecting the DOJ’s decision to move to drop charges against Flynn to public examination.

    “This has already become, and I think is only becoming more of, a public spectacle,” Wall said of actions by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan for the District of Columbia.

    Wall repeatedly expressed worry at the idea that Sullivan would attempt to conduct some kind of discovery at the DOJ through affidavits or declarations. Sullivan has yet to suggest that he would do so, and has yet to rule on the DOJ’s motion to dismiss.
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    The DOJ's contention puts us squarely in the category of a banana republic.
     

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