Does America need a revolution!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sappho, Jun 26, 2020.

  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Except there wasn't anything nationalized. That's already been debunked. You fell for fake news.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'fraid not. You don't think pulling down statues all over America is not an organized effort? Is that because you are Democrat and part of the problem?
     
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    Does America need a revolution!

    No, but we're are getting ready to be given an enema.
     
  4. Lucifer

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    YES!
     
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  5. ECA

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    Sigh...I was referring to the brick comment. Try to keep up, k?
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're falling behind. The brick comment was about "an organized effort"
     
  7. ECA

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    Which it wasn’t. And that is what I commented on.
     
  8. Sappho

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    Oh my! A challenge to Plutarch, I am intrigued. In deference to him, I must disagree with you. Americans are known to be hard working folk. However, Capitalist have taken advantage of that fact, globally, not merely in the US. Casualisation of the workforce benefits Capitalist and not workers. Wages have not kept pace with inflation. Many lack any kind of job security.... You could say that they treat them like slaves... Wage slaves!
     
  9. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    Instead of forcing your will on everyone with force and violence, why don't you run for office and try to get people to vote for you?
     
  10. ChristopherABrown

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    Absolutely!

    In fact America and the constitution will like not exist as we knew them if it does not happen.

    The people are a mess. Media has manipulated, exploited them, deceived them and misled them to a point where confusion and division rule.

    The revolution MUST deal with that to occur effesctively.

    The kind of unity it takes does not come from unity on issues, it comes from unity upon rights. I've spent a great deal of time pondering natural law and the most prime intent and rights of the constitution.

    Right here and now I'm going to give information that should be taught in every school, but it is taught in none.

    FIRSTLY:
    Free speech has an ultimate natural law biological purpose or function in human society and culture.

    -- The ultimate biological purpose of free speech is to assure information vital to survival is shared and understood. --

    No one ever argues that. It is common sense.

    THAT PURPOSE EXTENDED TO CONSTITUTION INTENT:

    --The ultimate legal purpose of free speech in America is to enable the unity in the people to effectively alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights. --

    If that is not true, then the framers gave us an empty right, and we all know that was NOT their intent.

    What happened was english gold paid off some of the peers of the framers to remove specific language from the framing documents to weaken it, and us.

    Here is a great example of that. It was a spiritual philosophical doctrine of the FIrst Nation Iroquois.

    The complete concept of the greater meaning of free speech is as follows:

    The "Greater Meaning Of Free Speech" is or was, an actual, practiced philosophical doctrine by the Six Nations. The "meaning" is derived from an understanding that can come from the practice of free speech. From the understanding can come; forgiveness, tolerance, acceptance, respect, trust, friendship and love, protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
    Anyone who knows the Declaration of Independence will recognize "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". Well, we got ripped off for the other 70% which is some important concepts for any society.

    This info on rights CAN be used to unify and get past division OR the impact of confusion and misleading. But only if patriots understand the significance of it and begin to start sharing it widely.

    Yea, I know. Know one knows about and so a person really has to get out of the sheep box and earnestly share it so people can understand it is natural law. We already agree unconsciously. The people only need to make that agreement conscious then formal with petitions upon state government in what can only be called "constitutional majorities".

    The petition demands state legislator accept the rights defined by the majority under the 9th Amendment then create a state convention to propose that other state accept and join in with creating an Article V convention that is outside of the control of congress and the court by moving 38 states to unify for Amendment of the federal and their state constitutions.

    How much do you love your country, Are social fears of being the only person, for a awhile. sharing these things going to stop you?

    Can anyone think of another way to escape the box of politics?
     
  11. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ I think we are in one now - a modern version . ✔
     
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    Your premise in bold - while true in some respects - is demonstrably false in the context of assessing societal poverty problems in general.

    The problem today is not the "dirt poor" some lazy slob sitting around collecting food stamps. The problem is that we have people working full time who need food stamps - can barely feed themselves never-mind take care of a family.

    This problem is made worse as the piece of the wealth pie controlled by the rich gets bigger and the piece the rest of us have to live on gets smaller - at a rate bigger than the increase in the overall pie.

    Nope - but we should revolt against the lack of/dwindling freedom and opportunity
     
  13. David Landbrecht

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    Does America need a revolution!
    Let's restate this as a question; does it need one?
    Yes, it needs the revolution built into the Constitution; i.e., the possibility every two years to clear out the House and a third of the Senate. Replace everyone with those whose allegiance is to the Republic and not to the duopoly.
     
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  14. RodB

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    It was capitalism that created the greatest and most prosperous middle class (read workers) in the world.

    Citizen complacency applies equally to the working classes and the elite rich government and business classes.
     

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