Donald Trump to Suspend Payroll Tax Until End of 2020

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Would you support democrats going to court to take food out of the mouths of the hungry?

  1. Yes, tax cuts for blue state rich comes first

    12.5%
  2. Yes, budget relief for tax and spend blue states, cities comes first

    12.5%
  3. No way

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Mr. Ddyad, I’m a honest man, thus;

    Yes he did! Late February, Fauci publicly called the threat of a pandemic “minuscule”, and back then, most Western governments were telling their citizens “The risk of a pandemic remains low”, and IMO, the word “minuscule” is way too reassuring.

    Now, let’s continue with my honesty;

    Prior to Trump’s “15 cases going down near zero” and “it will disappear....”

    CDC’s Nancy Messonnier publicly stated three indisputable facts;

    a. We’re going have more cases
    b. It’s no longer a question of if, but when?
    c. Community spread, now inevitable

    AND she was right! However, back then, her honesty was questioned by several right-wing media personalites, such as; “She’s related to Rosenstein, thus, no wonder”.

    In Trump’s mind; Her honesty was crashing the markets/damaging my healthy baby economy, thus, “What must I do to shut her up?” in quotation.

    Answer; Replace her with Pence
     
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    Well, if we are to be limited by the awful truth ... ;-)

    Back in early February I pointed out that Messonnier was reporting the truth that "the experts" like Fauci were denying about the nature of the Wuhan China Virus.
    Which begs a few questions : What did Messonnier know that the others appeared not to know?
    And how did she know so much more than the others?

    I doubt that her relationship with her hapless brother had much to do with it.
     
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    Just remember folks


    That payroll tax cut had to be repaid. I suggest you stick it in the bank
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    I’m no fan of Fauci/Birx, however, let’s be fair.... see my Thread titled “Nice guy, but he told us not to wear masks”

    Also, Google Canada’s Dr. Bonnie Henry, Wikipedia

    Her career, education, knowledge, and experiences, outstanding!

    However, had Dr. Bonnie Henry been our head epidemiologist, IMO, same fate as has Nancy Messonier.

    Why?
     
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    I never said a thing about minuscule. You brought it up, I didn't.

    ZERO, 15 will go to ZERO. tRUMPs statement that no other human said.
     
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    Like I said, most Western governments were telling their citizens; “The risk of a pandemic remains low”

    Fauci once said “minuscule”

    Question; What’s lesser than minuscule?

    Answer; Trump’s reassuring statements.
     
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    And tRUMP once said 15 will go to ZERO.

    They were both wrong. Happens.
    Fauci has been in the job for 40 yrs, so he must be right more often than wrong.
    Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama, all were basically his boss since he took the job. Pretty good record IMO.
     
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    I believe the smart and responsible employers will keep withholding.

    Also, last year, Congress/Trump postponed the debt ceiling TIL July 2021, thus, today, we have no limits, thus, no debates.

    Deferring tax payments/remittances without Congress approval is like opening up a bar tab
    with an unauthorized credit card, and let’s hope deep pocket Uncle Sam will show up prior to the last call.
     
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    Dr. Henry refused to sic the cops on Canadians.
    IOW, from the perspective of a corrupt ruling political class she let a crisis go to waste.
    The American political class punishes that kind of lapse.
     
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    LOL! I Brought up Fauci's description of the risk from the Wuhan China Virus, because you were so agitated by Trump's prediction that it would eventually be "zero". Again, you are distraught over the difference between "zero" and "minuscule".

    All these petty attacks on Trump only help expand his base of support. The DP needs to find more artful advisers.
    Probably too late for this election. Alas. ;-)
     
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    How long has the USG been a corrupt criminal enterprise?

    "A 1992 Department of Health and Human Services inspector general investigation that concluded NIAID failed to police two conflicts of interest in a vaccine experiment.
    In 2005, the AIDS research division under Fauci's agency was also required to reinstate a whistleblower, Dr. Jonathan Fishbein, its chief of ethics and regulatory compliance, after he and many lawmakers in both parties argued he had been wrongly fired in retaliation for raising safety concerns in some of the agency's research.

    In an interview with Just the News, Fishbein said this week that Fauci failed to take responsibility for the managers and researchers working below him when signs of trouble emerged, allowing problems to persist until others intervened. "Fauci is all about Fauci," Fishbein said. "He loves being the headline. It’s his ego.""
    JUST THE NEWS, Fauci Files: Celebrated doc's career dotted with ethics, safety controversies inside NIH
    Reinstated whistleblower says Fauci failed to get involved when problems emerged on his management watch., By Daniel Payne and John Solomon, July 23, 2020.
    https://justthenews.com/accountabil...icans-should-trust-doctors-himself-his-career
     
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    Borrow more money from our children to try to buy the vote.
     
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    You're the one distraught. I never said anything about minuscule.
    You're arguing with yourself. Or with something no one but you claimed.
     
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    Unauthorized Re-election candies......in an effort to boost Trump’s Q3 GDP Growth Rate.

    Cost; approx. $300 billion payroll receipts deferred TIL January, and then, who knows.

    Cost of Obama’s payroll tax holiday OVER TWO YEARS, in today’s dollars; $300 billion

    Trump; We are witnessing the fastest economic recovery in U.S. history

    Well, of course! We’ve also witnessed the lowest GDP growth rate in U.S. History.

    Cost of ensuring a fast recovery; $4 trillion

    Last, if we are witnessing the fastest economic recovery in U.S. history, why deferred $300 billion TIL January? Because the fastest recovery isn’t fast enough?
     
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    LOL! Of course I brought up Fauci's description of the risk as minuscule.
    The "expert" says minuscule Trump says zero, and Trump's hyperventilating opposition starts bouncing off the walls again. Every time that happens Trump's base of support expands - too easy. ;-)
     
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    No, tRUMP said 15 cases will be ZERO. Nothing about risk.

    Fauci never said 15 cases are minuscule and will go away.
    Your just arguing a point no one but you made.
     
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    So the cost of Trump's executive orders were less than both the Senate and House plans, but that's just an effort to get Trump re-elected.
    The House Plan, which was $3-3.5 trillion, and included bags and bags of candy unrelated to COVID - is not?
     
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    she hasn’t been replaced by anyone...she’s in the same position she’s had since 2016
     
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    The payroll tax has NOT been "suspended"

    It has been DEFERRED...which means both you and your employer would have to pay it back
     
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    this will cost way less then the 3.5 trillion dollar Dem “wish list”
     
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    that’s correct but as the president has said he’s hopes are to make it permanent and thus it won’t need to be
     
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    15 cases = "minuscule". IOW, Fauci was wrong. Get it? :)
     
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    VOTE DEMOCRAT TO PAYBACK ALL THAT AWFUL TRUMP CASH!
    Yet, another DNC winner.
    Election Is Coming. :)
     
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    15 cases didn't go to ZERO. Fauci never made that claim. Get it?
     
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    For all those that want to stop funding FICA, you can all call SS office and tell them you won't be wanting your SS check when you retire.
    And leave it for those who want their SS checks.
     

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