LIVE: First 2020 Presidential Debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden

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  1. FatBack

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    Yeah, that's exactly what your suggestion calls for....wait until the election, as riots rage on.
     
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    Uh huh sure (sound familiar)?
     
  3. Bush Lawyer

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    Another perspective.

     
  4. FatBack

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    And another one....
     
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    I can only respond to what I understand.

    I don't know what you mean by production, but I would suggest (based on all the testing and regulations that they must go through) that there won't be a working vaccine (that you can go to the doctor's and get) until Q2 2021. ( and whether it's affordable in medical shaftarama USA will be another interesting matter)

    Let's check in on this again and see
     
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  6. zelmo73

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    The virus is not “raging.” It is diminishing. Herd immunity is happening. Death rates are going down.
     
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    If that's the case glad to hear it. Are you able to link to something suggesting herd immunity? I'd be very interested to read more
     
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    Evidence please?
     
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    Sham Hammity trying to put lipstick on his pig!
     
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    Yes. And of course Mr O'Reilly is a Trumpeteer. Not that I care. But.....

    He made a point of Biden not answering directly a question about stacking SCOTUS. Yes, Biden did that, no doubt. If I were Biden, I would have said (like Trump is saying) that "the Constitution and the Law allow more numbers on SCOTUS and damn straight, I will do what the Constitution and the Law allows...just like Trump is doing."

    Team USA...that is your Achilles Heel. You allow it to happen via the Constitution which ought to be nuked.
     
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    Herd immunity is not happening yet. Far from it.

    Death rates holding steady at about 750 per day over the last 3 weeks. Not going down.
     
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    So what have the Proud Boys actually done to people besides pissing off the leftists?
     
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    I'll play along. What is it you think my side is doing? Are they burning buildings? Are they shooting people? Are they looting? I'm actually curious. Do you have thousands of examples like I do? No. You got about a couple dozen instances of people on the far-right being drawn into conflicts by lefties. Are the proud boys receiving financing from the right like Antifa is being financed by left-wing groups associated with the Democrats? No. Do homicides go up by 50-100% when the Proud Boys demonstrate in a town or city? You're pissed cause Trump won't condemn all these small right-wing groups that cause almost zero damage, and yet you think I'm on their side cause I condemn Democrats in government and corporate media for actually providing support to these left-wing group that have caused immeasurable suffering to people. You guys keep pointing at these right-wing groups as if they're the Klan cause of historical racism. You think fascism and racism are just right-wing ideas, but I'm a Jew that's looked into my people's history, and know that left-wingers played the most vital role in Nazism.

    Obviously, I don't support Nazis or the radical right. But I also don't support the far-left cause it is well-known fact that they invented and spread Nazism. The Marxists and Bolshevists from Russia accused the Jews of killing Tzar Nicholas, as well as controlling the communist movement around the world in order to one day take over the world. Cause the Far-left always needs an enemy. These radical lefties were an off-shoot of the socialist Democratic Party in Russia that was made up of many ethnicities were the ones that caused all that horrors of the holocaust with a simple idea about Jews secretly controlling and oppressing everyone. Lithuanians bought it hook, line and sinker, and started killing as many Jews as reasonable. The holocaust was set in motion by the idea that we were either evil communists or capitalists, or whatever. Of course, the match was lit by pitting oppressed former serfs in Germany against poor citizens and serfs in Eastern European countries like Poland and Lithuania. The German people were given nothing by the wealthy after serfdom, sent to war, lost their jobs in the city cause of the peace deal and crash, and then couldn't compete with illegal aliens from Poland as well as Baltic and Eastern European states. When the landowners and capitalists in Germany were asked to hire more Germans instead of foreigns workers, they said foreign workers do the jobs Germans won't do. I almost **** myself when I read this in college. Eastern European countries did the same thing when landowners hired different ethnic minorities to replace local majorities until the revolution. Similar thing happened in the United States between the Chinese, Irish and Blacks to keep them from unionizing.
     
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    Fair enough, but Biden won't say it because he knows that its unpopular. As usual, he's trying to play two sides of an issue.
     
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    Thought crimes. It's a real thing...please refer to the documentary called Minority Report ;)


    J/k
     
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    Listened live on the radio at 2am. Biden tried to follows the rules of the debate but Trump is an embarrassment to the US and could not be quiet even for just the first 2 minutes that Biden had. Good on Biden for not holding back once the 7 year old clown starting his tantrums. Unlike Clinton, Biden did answer back - "yapping", "clown", "liar", "shut up" and Trump had no reply. Biden won all 6 rounds.

    BUT on the whole this debate was an embarrassment for the US watched by millions worldwide
     
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    The death rate is grossly over exaggerated. Unlike most of those other countries you mentioned we are counting ANYONE with covid as a contributing factor on the death certificate (and even those without it) as a covid death. The rest of the world only counts it a covid death if it was the primary cause of death.
     
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    False.
     
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    Lols you got conned. Notice nearly every time Biden called Trump a name it was right after he lost his train of thought.

    Every single time he stumbled for more than two words he stopped and either called trump a name or told him to shut up. He was clearly trained to do so
     
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    I beg to differ. So does the government.

     
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    Prove that every other country does it differently.
     
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    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-covid-cases-1.5620080

    “A spokesperson for the Public Health Agency of Canada said in a statement to CBC that without a positive test for COVID-19, a probable case does not meet its national surveillance reporting criteria.

    That means if someone dies of COVID-19 before testing positive, even when it's marked as the cause of death on their death certificate, that case isn't necessarily reflected anywhere in our national numbers.”

    you want more?
     
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    More info on how country’s death counts differ

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/world-cant-agree-on-how-to-count-covid-19-deaths-muddying-toll/

    MOST countries only count someone as a positive covid death if they have a positive diagnosis and it’s the primary cause of death. Whereas the US counts people as COVID deaths if they even have the SYMPTOMS of covid and are listed as a contributing factor.

    Whereas if the US counted covid deaths the same way most of the other countries do our death rate would only be 6% of our total of the 200,000. Giving us approximately 12,000 covid deaths.

    By the way might I point out that in H1N1 we didn’t count deaths that way. We only counted it as an H1N1 death if they tested positive and it was the primary cause of death on the death certificate.
     
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    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html

    Nationally, since mid-July, there has been an overall decreasing trend in the percentage of specimens testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 and a decreasing or stable (change of ≤0.1%) trend in the percentage of visits for ILI and CLI

    Using combined data from the three laboratory types, the national percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 with a molecular assay decreased from 5.1% during week 37 to 4.8% during week 38.

    The percentage of outpatient or ED visits to ILINet providers for ILI is below baseline nationally and in all 10 regions of the country.

    Nationally, the percentage of visits to EDs for CLI and ILI remained stable (change of ≤0.1%) in week 38 compared with week 37. This is the tenth consecutive week of a declining or stable percentage of visits for CLI and ILI.
     
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    No he wasn’t. You are 100% incorrect.
     

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