blm racists destroy 3 year old Mexican's birthday party (video)

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Proud Boys join Black Lives matter proof.



     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When all the protests started, there were a few dozen in my town who decided they would protest, too. One guy showed up with a sign that said Murder All Cops and they kicked him out and told him not to come back.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Black lives matter joined with the Proud boys to protest. Somebody should tell that to Chris Wallace.
     
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    When the people doing it are following leadership blindly- the leadership shares at least equally in the responsibility for the consequences. These angry people weren't born angry, they were conditioned and shaped to be easy to act out. It's like the only way they can express their frustrations, and encouragement enables it over social restraint.
    We aren't watching protest or "woke" people in this situation- we are watching people who are unable to think for themselves mimicking people who are encouraging them- but using them.
    You may not have been paying attention to the larger picture, but the quality of our younger generations are slipping in many ways. That's been progressing for many decades now. IQ is dropping. Virility is dropping. People are accepting opinions as if they were knowledge- and learning knowledge without understanding what it means. Relative skill scores compared to the equivalent students of other nations are dropping too; students today are worse at math and basic skills such as english than their peers of 100 years ago. Worst of all, the foundations of wisdom- what used to be called savvy, common sense, the ability to reason- is diminishing. That means people are much more gullible, much easier to manipulate- and much less controlled by personal values.

    If you doubt that, just do a little homework. For example- below is a chart from 2015, where American student basic skills are poor- we rank 40th in math in the list of developed nations.
    When you can't comprehend math, you can't manage your budget. This doesn't cover english, but our spelling, reading and writing has become child-like even in people 30 years old. Given the skills they can't test for- such as managing your life- it begins to be obvious why we have so many frustrated people doing stupid things.... They literally don't know how to behave without acting out; thus they are conditioned to using emotional reactions and anger as a life tool, and are easy to manipulate. The people who manipulate them help insure they won't get stronger or smarter.

    Now if I were to go to the tables covering crime, family abandonment, out of wedlock births, domestic abuse- the picture gets clearer, and a lot uglier. It's hardly accidental or genetic- it's programmed and cultured.


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    Who cares what site he got the video from. its 100% real.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so comments on the video itself?
     
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    You blame anyone who dares be remotely critical of BLM, of this same strawman....like you did me, but then you would not elaborate..
     
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    As is assuming all BLM supporters must naturally be black....

    I see a good many of them are naive, young whites.
     
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    "The Cops came and nothing was done" I smell BS on this great news-source of twitter.
     
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    I don't remember anyone saying that all BLM supporters have to be black. But I do recall you saying several times that BLM supports violence and harrassment by it's members, and that all harrassment, violence, and riotting committed by black people is supported by BLM,
     
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    The OP did and you flatly defended them. This kind of thread by that kind of poster is sadly not a place for nuanced discussion. Whatever you intended, that was the impression you gave. Not unlike the issue you're referring to, when people go around associating every and any act of violence involving black people with BLM, it will result in increased racism and division. That is the active intention of the OP but I hope you have better intentions and will counter rather that support them.

    You've always had that in America. Pretending all the violence and division is the fault of the entire BLM movement is just about avoiding the shared responsibility you all have to address the underlying social and political issues that are actually behind it all. As I said, it's all about finding a "them" to blame rather than accepting the "us" you're a part of yourself.
     
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    Sadly, almost no conservative can understand this. They simply don't have the necessary brain wiring to even hear the concept let alone think about it.

    It's like a blind spot that they are not even aware of
     
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    OH BS, that's what YOU said.
     
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    Cops doing their job and subduing those who resist is not an underlying social issue...
     
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    You're helping prove my point, but not in the way you thought you were. :cool:
     
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    Cops using excessive force or unjustified racial profiling isn't an underlying social issue either. They're both symptoms of the underlying issues. Nothing that I've posted here has suggested BLM proponents are any better (or worse) than the people attacking them here and that was entirely intentional. You're all part of one big problem, one aspect of which is blaming each other for it.
     
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    I know. I'm part of the problem.

    Nevertheless accurate (see the response you received) :)

    Edit: and I am sitting here with popcorn waiting for you to convince any conservative here on the existence of underlying social issues/inequality.
     
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    The only underlying issue here is the resisting arrest culture and idiots who get themselves killed. There is no evidence that backs the claims that any issue you address exists at all...
     
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    "Supports"? That's irrelevant. The re-tweet (if that's what it is) you posted insinuates that every black person represents BLM.. That is definitely racist

    And you manipulate it further by making it appear as if the picture you post is the twitter post. Forum rules forbid me honestly stating what I think that means.
     
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    I have no idea what the video is about. The racist who re-tweeted it took some random video and tried to make it look as if it had something to do with BLM.
     
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    As is assuming that BLM supporters are somehow "naive".
     
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    I said the poster made that connection. Do you have any proof it's wrong? Or do you just discount that statement from someone a lot closer to the incident than you, because you don't want to see it?

    There is plenty of verifiable data regarding the levels of violence involving black people, and plenty of evidence of the endorsement of aggression by BLM people. All our problems aren't caused by the BLM, but we're talking about the promotion of violence over claims of racism and racial injustice- and they are the front-runner in that at the moment. They are also the racists promoting racism, because the perception of that is the fuel they need to raise money, intimidate politicians and gain sympathy from the less savvy people in society.

    Who a person is and how they are seen depends mostly on how they define themselves by their own behavior. How any group they are part of is seen depends on the overall balance of behaviors of the group. While it is unfortunate that good people can be part of a group in disfavor and suffer from the negative image, they also can take a hand in changing that- or making it worse, which is exactly what BLM is doing to the black culture of America. Instead of applauding and supporting their best, they applaud and support their worst, and criticize their best. The sub-culture war within the black community does not get much publicity, but the good people in that community are highly aware they are in one, and fighting to prevent their own worst people from destroying all their gains.

    Why would anyone take a more negative view over a positive view of those involved in an incident like this? Because it is the same conduct the BLM group supports and projects. They are setting examples, and getting away with it. That fuels malcontents every time.

    Here's a data report from the US Bureau of Justice Statistics. This is the rate of interracial violent attacks- per capita, giving you a direct ratio of the probability that you may be assaulted by a white or black person. Divide the numbers. It's 43 to One. The rates for all kinds of criminal and anti-social acts all reflect negatively for the black culture. BLM defends this as a consequence of racism, justifying it. They apparently don't see anything wrong, and not only expect it to be ignored, they want to blame the consequences on others and demand approval. Regardless of what really happened at that yard party- these are the people elevating bad behavior and violence to a norm, and justifying it. A person would have to be very, very naive to not understand the connection between endorsement of bad conduct and the increase in bad conduct. You do not have to be a card carrying member to be a mirror.


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    That isn't how it works. If I simply declared that poster is a Nazi, would you assume it was true unless and until you saw proof I was wrong? Of course not, you'd demand evidence for my accusation and probably condemn me (with some justification) for making it without any justification.

    The implication remains that the people in the video were active members of some BLM organisation but there is literally zero evidence to even support that as a suspicion, let alone a definitive statement. The whole thing is wrong, intentionally divisive and only serves to distract from whatever causes were actually behind the attack on the party.

    No, we're talking about people blaming some random act of violence on BLM with no justification. If you really want a reasonable discussion on any actual issues about violence in America, you'd be better off starting a thread about it. You can't have a reasonable discussion on the back this kind of thread. It's much easier to start at street level rather than try to drag yourself out of the sewer.
     
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    What isn't racist these days to the left? So far no leftist can name anything.
     
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    Racial profiling - can you tell me what the profile for black people is?

    Racial profiling has to be one of the most racist things anyone can ever pull out of their butt. It immediately assumes the profile for blacks is bad and it applies to all blacks. Because the left sees racism in everything from grammar, to seat belts to Mary Poppins, how the heck did this escape you guys?

    And don't try to tell me the profile is what the police think because you ain't inside the heads of the police. Racial profiling is just another excuse, and it's an extremely racist excuse, for taking the blame off of certain people and dumping it on others.

    Tell me, if the racial profile for blacks was that they're all Ph.D. scholars about to enter NASA's space program, would you still use racial profiling as an excuse for their reputation?
     

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