CDC chief’s letter greenlighting Pence for debate draws criticism

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  1. Connery

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    "A letter sent by the top public health official attesting to Vice President Pence’s health and proclaiming him safe to debate Wednesday night is sparking outcry from public health experts....

    The letter is raising concern within the CDC and among public health experts about the propriety of Redfield’s actions, especially after President Trump and at least nine White House employees have tested positive for the novel coronavirus. The CDC is not involved in investigating the scope and source of the outbreak linked to the White House.

    “To me, if we are not involved in the investigation, I don’t know how we could make that determination” that Pence is safe to participate in the debate, said one CDC official who was upset by Redfield’s action and spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. “We should stick to our guidance. You should be quarantined for 14 days if exposed.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/07/cdc-redfield-pence-letter/

    This is very disconcerting especially with the Pink Eye that Pence has and the fact that The White House is a hot spot of Coronavirus activity.

    Moreover, to align the CDC with the WH compromises the objectivity and reliability of the information and mission of this governmental organization.

    "To accomplish our mission, CDC conducts critical science and provides health information that protects our nation against expensive and dangerous health threats, and responds when these arise." https://www.cdc.gov/about/organization/cio.htm
     
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    So who would be in danger here? I don't believe the Covid would make it thru all of Harris's nasty so it isn't her.
     
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    In all likelihood Pense's friend, the fly, who was whispering answers to him was be the closest and therefore would be most at risk.

    Fact is to use the CDC was a low blow and casts further doubt on the information coming out of the WH
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh great, yet another unnamed source gaslighting liberals. Why should we care if they are too cowardly to come forward openly? Oh right, theses folks are more concerned about their jobs the the so-called issues they are whining about...
     
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    How about responding to the issue rather than bantering on about nonsense.
     
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    Once upon a time in Epidemiology the CDC was considered the premier source for information on diseases, pandemic response and morbidity&mortality data.

    Once upon a time....... oh! How things have changed under Trump.....
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your so-called issue is nonsense...
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The CDC is still the best in the world. All that's changed is liberals don't like what they are saying so they throw shade...
     
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    More baloney from you....:above:


    “Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials
    The White House’s attempt to impose a more disciplined approach to communications about the virus was undermined by President Trump, who complained the news media was overstating the threat.‘

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/us/politics/us-coronavirus-pence.html
     
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    Maybe your echo of your messiahs favorite words is nonsense especially
    considering he lies more than all news agencies he cries about all the time put together
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This isn't a messaging problem. This is a hack gaslighting suckers. If there was a real issue there are proper channels to go through. That isn't happening with all these liberal unnamed sources...
     
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    I'm right on point. There is a reason for having authorized people able to speak openly to the press. If you got gaslit over some anonymous source, that's your problem. Just don't expect anyone else to buy into this nonsense...
     
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    Please cease your attempts to derail this thread.

    the issue is clear......CDC and the letter.
     
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    The silly outrage is premised on anonymous sources. No reason to take this seriously...
     
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    Rochelle Walensky, chief of the division of infectious diseases at Massachusetts General Hospital said, "the White House’s lack of transparency about the pandemic over “many months” and political interference in the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration have undermined public trust in the health agencies."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/10/07/cdc-redfield-pence-letter/

    It stands to reason that an agency that any letter claiming Pence was not infected should have been issued by an independent authority.
     
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    Nope not misogynistic at all
     
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    How is it nonsense? One of the guidelines of managing the virus is to quarantine if exposed to an infected individual. That's what contact tracing is all about. Pence's participation flew in the face of that guideline. And he's the head of the task force! Another example of different rules for different people.
     
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    This past Summer, it was printed in our newspaper that people could call the police about stray cats. They would take the cats to a local vet who would euthanize them. Residents were furious about it. Come to find out, the vet knew NOTHING about it and the Police Chief just okay'd the article to run. She outright refused to kill any animals brought in by the local police. The article was retracted.

    The point being, it IS possible the CDC knew nothing about the "approval" and the WH just ran with it on their own. I would not be surprised at this point. Even if he is not COVID-positive, he clearly has conjunctivitis (pink eye) which is very contagious.
     
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    When was the last time Trump and Pence were in the same room?
     
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    We don't know - we're not getting answers to those questions.
     
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    Then it seems pretty ridiculous to say CDC is doing something wrong, it's an assumption without basis turned into an accusation with malice...
     
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    Okay - so for the record, now the CDC is good and worthy of defense? Sheesh its hard to stay on top of this ping pong game.
     
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    Pence looked hella sick yesterday. Both of his eyes looked so sunken and yellow/red that his face looked like a Ill fitted mask.

    That said, his performance was infinity better then Trump's, though his attempt to try was shut down by Kamala pretty damn quick.
     
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    I've never once stated the CDC was anything but the best in the world at what they do...
     
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