Ga election

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  1. Terrapinstation

    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Green New Deal
    Paris Climate
    Restrictions on 1st and 2nd amendments
    Wealth distribution
    Weakened military

    Should I go on? You did only ask for one
     
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    Thanks... don't think we'll need it however, as was pointed out by others...

    US Military vs the subsection of your 75 million willing to face them...

    Will be a creative way to legally trim the voter rolls in certain areas...
     
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    Actually, I was waiting for somebody to answer his question... and wait longer I must.....
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you missed the second half of the question:

    I don't run in the same batshit conspiracy circles that some others do, so just crying "Paris Climate" doesn't mean anything to me in this context.
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Yep, except the military, former and current are overwhelmingly conservative. As is law enforcement.

    But say you're right and all the military backs Biden and Pelosi. if even 2% of the right takes up arms, it makes them what, the 3rd largest standing army in the world? Again, good luck
     
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    Now here is where the race stands, 11:30 AM update according to fivethirtyeight:

    The Georgia Secretary of State has just detailed the outstanding totals and their counties. I added them up.
    Ossoff's lead is 17,025 votes.
    There are votes in heavily Democratic counties that total 43,488, still to be counted.
    There are votes in heavily Republican counties that total 8,009 still to be counted.
    There are about 14,000 overseas and military ballots that were requested and haven't been sent back yet (not all of them will, of course, but they have until 5PM on Friday to arrive and still be counted).
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    Let's remember that overseas and military ballots INCREASED Biden's lead in Georgia in November, so Republicans should not hope for a lot of help from these. They will probably just split. But let's say they all arrive and go 10,000 for Perdue and 4,000 for Ossoff (both all 14,000 arriving and 10,000 going for Perdue are VERY generous predictions; like I said, more likely they will split even), that would be a 6,000 advantage for Perdue so Ossoff's lead would be 11,025.

    Now, looking at the 43,488 votes still to be counted in Democratic areas where they went for Ossoff from 60% to 90%, I don't see any way for Perdue to catch up, relying on only 8,009 from Republican areas. Even if all votes in heavily Republican areas went for Perdue (which is quite impossible) he would still be 3.016 votes behind.

    So, the wildest most favorable scenario for Perdue (it won't be as rosy for him, but just for the sake of the argument) would get him still about 3,000 votes behind, and then facing 43,488 uncounted in places that are going at least 60% for his opponent.

    Let's again be hyper generous with Perdue and suppose that all of these won't go for Ossoff at any better rate than 60% (which is absurd; for example, these are remaining absentee votes and these, in DeKalb county, were going more than 90% for Ossoff).

    So, a 20% differential (60% minus 40%) for Ossoff in these 43,488 = 8.697 votes. With the 3,016 previous advantage = 11,713. Which is remarkably similar to Biden's margin of victory in Georgia.

    There are still some potential provisional ballots. These have also favored Biden in November. They are probably not more than 15,000 (that's about how many existed in November, and the general turnout for this runoff races was smaller than in November, so likely at most that but likely fewer), and they will probably just split along these quasi-50-50 overall results between Perdue and Ossoff. So, they shouldn't be a factor either way. They belong to all sorts of modalities of voting and all sorts of counties so they should statistically speaking be close to the same overall quasi-50-50 result we're seeing in Georgia.

    Bottom line: Ossoff has won his race. There is no way for Perdue to catch up. Even if the most unlikely and catastrophic (for Ossoff) events happened in these last votes, favoring Perdue (Democratic areas suddenly going only 60% for Ossoff, all overseas ballots arriving and having a more than 2-to-1 ratio for Perdue, 100% of the votes going for Perdue in the remaining Republican counties, all of these highly unlikely), Ossoff would still win by about what Biden had in his victory.
     
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    If?

    LOL.
     
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    If you can't see how taking money from the US taxpayers, and giving it to foreign countries under the guise of 'climate change', while at the same time increasing restrictions on US citizens, doesn't tie into a global government, then I can't help you.
     
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    If you can't support your claims with a cogent argument, then I guess we have nothing else to talk about. Have a nice day!
     
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    Terrapinstation Well-Known Member

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    Yep, go UN!!!
     
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    The Democrats don't even have to write a policy platform. They are following the suggestions, guidelines and instructions of the United Nations and the World Economic Forum. Those non-elected, self-appointed institutional leaders are certainly planning an authoritarian government. They're pushing fear to gain compliance. Climate Change where people will be taxed to "fix the weather" is the main lever to remove peoples' rights to freedom and property. Compliance with Maoist lockdowns for a virus which mostly kills people who would die from a bad case of the flu has been a good test of peoples' readiness to give up and kneel to fascist-technocratic power.

    Every policy Biden will try to enact is available in detail at the UN and WEF websites. Leading from behind is not leading. Slavery is not freedom. Taxation is theft.
     
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    Great... hope they wear some sort of uniform, so identification will be easier...
     
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    Ok, great. I understand that. But I ask again, do you want our Government to spend money and investigate unproven accusations of fraud simply based on feelings?
     
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    Okay, a lot of that sounds kind of crazy and histrionic, which is why I was asking for one specific thing that we could dissect. Do you want to narrow it down to one and try to draw a clear picture?
     
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    No. Do your own research. Half the country did.
     
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    Agreed. Which is why it would it would be an even larger waste of money and time because they will not believe it one way or the other.
     
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    A month ago, I was sure these seats were lost. Its Georgia. All they have to do is throw out that word 'socialism' or 'leftist agenda, and the people coming running out in terror. But once again I underestimated Trump's ability to sabatage his own party. The last three weeks have been unbelievably bad for the GOP. The only headlines around were about Donald Trump stealing these elections, , and the deaths at the hands of the virus, and that 2000 dollar stimulus check that never came.

    All Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and these Democratic candidates had to do was add the moving tape to the boxes Trump bought and folded and filled with Congressmen and women of the GOP.

    Mind, I am grateful, but the GOP has themselves made Georgia into a swing state. The color purple dominates its horizon now.
     
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    Yes. It's imperative, or we'll be back at the same place in 2024, regardless who wins.
     
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    50 Govenors, 50 Secretaries of State, 80 judges, Trump's cabinet members: No fraud. Clean election.

    Trump: Fraud.

    Trump's cult: It's FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Sovcit lunacy at its best...
     
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    Lets hope Biden becomes the next FDR. Also Manchin needs to get in line.
     
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    Congratulations!!! I have never been happier for you....
     
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    I disagree. 2020 was unprecedented simply due to the Covid pandemic. You don't really expect there to be this many mail in ballots once the pandemic ends, right? I don't.
     
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    Does anyone else find it comical and ironic to read posts from a member here that has Trump's face as his/her avatar that says "Deal with it" while reading this users posts clearly stating that he/she can not deal with it? LOL
     
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    That face palm should be the official Republican logo for this session of Congress. The race was favoring Republicans from the get go, ruining it so close to the Election Day is just plain stupid.

    Politicians in both parties need to understand that instead of pandering to their bases, they must do everything they can to attract moderates. For Democrats that means that supporting riots and lawlessness, as well as never ending race baiting, is a big no-no from moderate perspective. At the same time, blocking weed legislation, something that is supported by virtually all moderates, is a big no-no for Republicans. Also, blocking standalone $2k stimulus should have raised eyebrows even among fiscal hawks as that legislation was clean of pork and straight on point.

    Oh well...
     
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