Scraping the bottom of the barrel

Showing the entire world what a putz we had elected as a leader once upon a time.

 

Under normal circumstances that is true.
But the last 4 yrs was anything but normal.

It would benefit the D's to not convict and let trump maintain some relevance in republican circles. He has them fractured and it will only deepen.

 

Unfortunately yes but, to be fair, the world was already quite familiar with the narcissistic pathologically lying con artist well before he was elected . On a side note I've got to say, I've caught a fair bit of the proceedings and I'm really impressed with what the Dems have presented, they have a deep team and some emerging stars. The bozos on the other side have to be a bit concerned - measuring up to the Dems team is very unlikely, based on what we saw yesterday......

 

The repubs won't even mount a defense.
They don't have to. They are never going to convict.

But history is being recorded with this trial.

 

Yup, there won't be a senate conviction. And you are correct about history, it will not be kind to these so-called Republicans - their verdicts will expose them forever to the wrath of historians and recognized for completely breaking faith with their oath of office. They have sworn fealty to Trump for eff's sake, they are actually Trumpists, not Republicans and Trump is already recognized as the worst president ever and will be vilified and disgraced forever........and for history, the Dems and those few Republicans supporting them have to continue with this process, they would be derelict in their duty if they did not.

 

Protesting is not illegal. He never asked them to do anything other than fight. We have all said fight without it meaning anything literal.

I watched part of it. There was nothing there that indicated that he asked them to do anything illegal.

Also, and most important, we have only heard one side of the story. The defense has not presented their case.

 

Because it wouldn't have been a riot then, would it?

You just can't admit you're wrong, can you? That's fine. It's okay. I had suspicions which you have now confirmed.

 

Not wrong about a thing. Just reinforcing what I have said before. Trump was not impeached for what other people did. He was impeached for what he did. However, had the rioters not rioted, nothing would have happened. But that does not prove he had responsibility for what they did.

With the democrats. No one did anything so it was not pursued other than just a warning. However, if someone had tried to kill Trump, they would have been tried for a felony.

The major difference is that Trump only said "fight". The democrats asked someone to kill Trump.

 

That's normal party fundraising. It has nothing to do with the impeachment, which is what you claimed. One of your exhibits even states that funds donated through the traindemocrats.org website go towards educating and grooming young Democrats who want to run for office.

We don't donate funds for legislative processes conducted by the House or Senate. Our taxes pay for that.

 

So he is so weak that he cowered before his political opponents and refused to hold these criminals as you claim, to justice? Lol

 

The benefit is for the elites who get to have their useful idiots focus on Trump while the feds do lots of more noteworthy things under the nose of the public.

This thread is a great example of why the masses are so easily manipulated. When they ultimately fail to convict Trump, they'll probably try to go after him in civil court for one thing or another in order to keep the focus on Trump.

 

Oh, my, I think you need to read the constitution. Read it, then we can talk.

Hint: non-elected people cannot be "impeached".

Also, there is a separate process for removing Representatives and Senators - it's called expulsion and it is house-internal.

 

What I do or not do is none of your business.

It's amazing how personal righties just love to get, as if they think that is an actual debate technique.

It's just plain old sad.

Sad, sad, sad.

 

Oh, well then, I am sooooo glad that we have cleared that up.

 

Well, good for them!!!

Are you trying to say that Trump and his nasty ilk never fundraised off of things that they had done or claimed that others did to them?

 

Well, that's it. We can all turn off our computers and talk long walks now.

Liz is gonna be totally bigly heart-broken.

I don't see how she is going to overcome this hurt.

 

Well, that's already guaranteed to happen. Literally, QUITE LITERALLY, 100s of court cases are waiting on the former, utterly failed, disgraced, twice impeached President, without any help at all from Democrats. All those lawsuits over rape allegations and those lawsuits from former business partners he screwed over. And then there's his taxes..... oh, this is gonna be fun!!!

 

Incitement is a crime, on the books, with federal penalties.

You know, law and order stuff.

 

Ima gonna prophesy it now:

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) is going to end up eating his shorts (or his magic underwear) on this one.

He got all hot and bothered because the impeachment managers acurately quoted a well sourced media story that claims that on January 6th, Trump was trying to reach Tommy Tuberville and instead dialed Lee's phone WHILE the Capitol was being beseiged and just shortly before the Senators were being whisked away. According to the report, Lee gave the phone to Tuberville and Trump told Tuberville to object to the electors from every state that he could. According the story, Lee overheard the conversation and then told the then-Pres. that they had to go. Lee has had 5 full weeks to correct this story if it were false and until yesterday, he has said not a word.

And then suddenly, in grand "I have been thusly pierced to the heart" fashion, just as Schumer was to move to adjourn the Senate for the day, Mike Lee objected fiercely to his name having been dropped during one manager's (Rep. Castro, if I recall correctly....) presentation of evidence and demanded that the remarks be stricken from the record. Gee, if only he had shown as much emotion over the insurrectionists that had been out to kill him and the rest of the Senators and Representatives and their families and their staffs....

At first, Leahy didn't quite understand Lee, who was then very gruff with him and I am relatively sure that afterward, Lee heard a few choice words from Majority Leader Schumer about his behavior. But Impeachment Manager Jamie Raskin was like, this is totally unimportant and if we strike the two sentences from the record, well ok, that won't change a ******ned thing, let the fool be a fool, it's all good, peaceout.

But how much do you want to bet that someone else in the room was filming the scene with his or her smartfon cam when this all went down on January 6th??? How much do you want to bet that the press can easily find credible witnesses to say that it happened exactly as was already reported in the press?? I am betting very strongly that this is going to come back and bite Mike Lee in his magic-underwear ass and make him out to be the fool he was yesterday.

The simpler (and perhaps more plausible) explanation is that Mike Lee has the emotional intelligence of a 1st grader and had a hell of a time keeping his mouth shut during the presentation of evidence, as Senators are not allowed to speak during the trail, under "pain of imprisonment" and so, his worse angels got the better of him and he just had to blurt out something at the end and since his name was mentioned, he found a way to do it without breaking the Senate rules.

I don't have the best nose in the world, but a pretty darned good one for stories that are, like Eagles, about to take flight....

 

LMAO...if your orange dotard had gotten over losing, none of this would have happened.
But I’m glad he did because he screwed himself, the repubs and his cult.
Happy days, eh?

 

No one said anything about impeaching them.

He never told them to enter the Capitol building or to injure or kill anyone.

 

That's what I meant. Normal party fundraising with a theme of impeaching Trump.

 

By now I assume that you've read my posts #50 and #51. I was just detailing out a normal party donation.

I'm not trying to pry into your personal/private actions. I'm just suggesting that you have probably run into this sort of stuff if you get email polls, and such, and donate at the end of your participation.

 

No, that isn't my point at all. I refer you back to post #51. Republicans do this kind of stuff too.

 

More government figures have been let off the hook than can be listed here. That you are ignorant of them is no surprise.

The two most easily remembered are John Brennan and James Clapper, both of whom perjured themselves on TV, in front of Congress.

The others are Comey and others who committed perjury before the FISA court.