If every State had adopted Governor Kristi Noem's hands-off approach........

Today's Covid19 statistics

SD's number of deaths per 1M pop; 2,149

U.S. average number of deaths per 1M pop; 1,634

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

A difference of 515 deaths per 1M pop, thus, nationally;

515 deaths X 332(m) = 713,468 deaths VERSUS our current 540,843 deaths

IN OTHER WORDS, if every State had adopted Governor Kristi Noem's hands-off approach, we would have near 720K Covid19 deaths instead of 540K, correct?

Anticipated response from the Republicans; '' A difference of 180K deaths, Geeeeezzze, we should have kept the economy open''

BUT WAIT A MINUTE........

In reference to the following state rankings, what if South Dakota had ranked top 5/top10?

1. List of State by population density;

Ranked # 1; New Jersey........1,207 inhabitants per square mi

Ranked # 46. South Dakota........11.3 inhabitants per square mi

https://state.1keydata.com/state-population-density.php


2. List of Metropolitian areas by population; 1 to 384

Ranked #1 New York CIty/Newark/Jersey City.......19,216,182

Ranked # 182; Sioux Falls, SD.......269,728
Ranked # 294; Rapid City, SD........142,107

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_statistical_areas


3. List Urban areas by population density; 1 - 497

Ranked # 1; Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana........7,000 inhabitants per sq mi

Ranked 112; Sioux Falls, SD.......2,443 inhabitants per sk mi
Ranked 258; Rapid City, SD........1,923 in habitants per sk mi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_urban_areas


4. List of U.S. Cities by population;

Ranked # 1; New York City; 8,336.817

Ranked # 139; Sioux Falls, SD; 183,793
Rapid City, SD; 80,619

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population


5. List of U.S. Cities by population density

Ranked # 1; New York City........28,317 inhabitants per sq mi

Ranked # 232; Sioux Falls, SD.........2,312 inhabitants per sq mi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population

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In reference to; Why more Blacks are dying of Covid19......

List of States by percent of Black population;

Ranked 1; Mississippi......39%

Ranked 45; South Dakota.....3%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population

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In reference to; Seniors are the most vulnerable;

Percent of Population 65 or Older by U.S. State

Ranked # 23; South Dakota......16.6%

https://www.prb.org/which-us-states-are-the-oldest/

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I am impressed. This is good, reliable, researched information.
I would like to suggest that we add "POLITICAL HOMICIDE" to our conversations. I think that any president, governor, or other government official who makes a policy decision that results in the death of American citizens/residents is guilty of "political homicide" unless they can prove that the benefit is worth the loss of life.
Ex-president Trump and Governor Noem are definitely guilty of political homicide.

 

For people like me who love social distancing.

 

Kristi wants to go on a "We're the only state that didn't'' Tour

Well, I should also go on a Tour, ''I'm still alive'' Tour, and here's why;

Population density.......where I live; I'm the only guy per square mile

County population density, (Burke County, ND); 1.7 inhabitants per square mile

Population; 2,200

Number of Covid19 deaths; 1

Burke's County Death Rate; 0.44%

Note: No lockdowns!

U.S. Death Rate; 1.86%

https://www.health.nd.gov/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/north-dakota-coronavirus-cases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burke_County,_North_Dakota

 

Before everyone makes up their mind on race, population density, and politics in some of these states, they may want to consider some facts.

See attached file at bottom.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/research/american-indians-and-alaska-natives-are-dying-of-covid-19-at-shocking-rates/?amp



Buffalo county is 85% Native American.



Almost the entire county (Dewey) is part of the Cheyenne River Reservation. The county is 74% Native American.



Oglala Lakota county is 94% Native American. The statistics go on and on.

Native Americans in these places live in small houses with large multigenerational families.

Get woke people. Covid has wrecked the people we owe the most, and nobody is even aware of it. Did some governors do better than others? Yep. But you’ve been misled on who’s dying and why.

We simply must do better. H1N1 influenza wrecked Native Americans compared to the rest of the US population. Yet healthcare we promised them is still underfunded, under staffed, and lacking infrastructure.


The only bright spot is that tribes are vaccinating their people more quickly than any demographic I’m aware of in the US.

 

I applaud any elected official who realizes that we DO NOT need govt to make personal decisions on our behalf

As for you and other Democrat voters, perhaps you like govt to run your lives

 

Quote: I applaud any elected official who realizes that we DO NOT need govt to make personal decisions on our behalf

Welcome to Fantasy Island!

IN OTHER WORDS, in the U.S., things never get out of control because our elected officials are allowing people to make their own decisions.

 

Good points.

In addition;

Navajo Nation........

Population; 173,667
Number of Covid19 Cases; 29,887
Number of Covid19 deaths; 1,204
Number of Covid19 deaths per 1,000 pop; 40.28
Percent of population infected; 17.2%
Death Rate; 4.02%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The Navajo Nation is a American Indian territory covering about 17,544,500 acres (71,000 km2; 27,413 sq mi), occupying portions of northeastern Arizona, southeastern Utah, and northwestern New Mexico in the United States.

Headline;

Navajo Nation surpasses New York state for the highest Covid-19 infection rate in the US

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/18/us/navajo-nation-infection-rate-trnd/index.html

 

Thanks. Yes I know a guy who works with the Navajo in Arizona. He has been heartbroken. Now his priority is getting them vaccinated.

What’s really sad is many tribes report losing a large percentage of elders and native language speakers. Most tribes are prioritizing vaccine to native speakers and elders.

 

South Dakota's Cheyenne River Reservation Covid19 Update

Population; 11,195.......https://www.bia.gov/regional-offices/great-plains/south-dakota/cheyenne-river-agency

Despite road checkpoints, mask mandate, contact tracing, and other prevention measures;

Number of Covid19 Cases; 1,757
Number of Covid19 Deaths; 35
Percent of population affected; 15.69%
Number of Covid19 Deaths per 1,000 pop; 35/1.757 = 19.92
Death Rate; 35/1757 = 1.99%

https://www.crstcoronavirusupdates.com/

CONCLUSION: Yes, Indian Reservations do have a very high rate of infections, and a very high number of deaths per 1,000 pop., and historically, it is true that many diseases have nearly wiped them out.

Here's a statement that would be considered malicious; In reference to lockdowns, mask mandates, social distancing, and other Covid19 prevention measures, "Indian Reserve Chiefs should let their people make their own decisions''

South Dakota Covid19 stats;

Population; 884,659
Number of Covid19 Cases; 113,962
Percent of population affected; 12.88%
Number of Covid19 Deaths; 1,904
Number of Covid19 Deaths per 1,000 pop; 1904/884.659 = 2.15
Death Rate; 1,904/113,962 = 1.67%

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

National Average;

Population; 332 million
Number of Covid19 Cases; 29,862,124
Percent of population affected; 8.99%
Number of Covid19 Deaths; 542,191
Number of Covid19 Deaths per 1,000 pop; 542,191/332,000 = 1.63
Death Rate; 1.81%

 

Let's continue........



South Dakota Demographics

• White: 84.27%..........................SD Population; 884,659 X 84.27% = 745,502
• Native American: 8.75%...........SD Population; 884,659 X 8.75% = 77,407
• Two or more races: 2.62%
• Black or African American: 2.01%
• Asian: 1.45%
• Other race: 0.83%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.06%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/south-dakota-population

South Dakota

Race & ethnicity: cases per capita.......March 7, 2021

Cases per 100,000 people



Black or African American
14,653


Hispanic or Latino
12,551


Asian
11,734


American Indian or Alaska Native................Actual number of cases; 14,181
18,418


White..................Actual number of cases;
11,881


Race & ethnicity: deaths per capita.........March 7, 2021

Deaths per 100,000 people



Black or African American
41*


Hispanic or Latino
70


Asian
128


American Indian or Alaska Native..........Actual number of deaths; 279 (population 77,407, per 100,000, 361 X 0.774)
361


White......................Actual number of deaths; 210 X 7.45 = 1,564 (white population 745,502, per 100,000, 210 X 7.45)
210

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/south-dakota

SD Total Covid19 deaths excluding American Native; 1,904 - 279 = 1,625

SD Number of Deaths per 1M pop excluding American Native; 1625/0.884 = 1,837

National Average number of deaths per 1M pop; 1,638

CONCLUSION; Excluding American natives, SD's number of deaths per 1M pop......STILL 200 DEATHS ABOVE NATIONAL AVERAGE, however, according to several Covid19 stats, American natives are most vulnerable ethnic group.

 

They are guilty of trying to prevent fighting a medical crisis with an economic one. Kristi Noem gets my vote for best governor in the nation. None of these statistics consider how people might behave if the decision is theirs and not from an authoritarian government. I'm not on board with this at all. Not even a little.

 

I agree, it’s amazing with no mandates SD managed less deaths per million than many states with sweeping, enforced mandates. It’s also interesting they managed this while achieving the second lowest unemployment rate in the country even though the largest employment sector in the state is the service industry.

It seems more of the services need to go to natives though.

 

Whitmer, Cuomo, and a couple other dem goes who willingly put covid infected in nursing homes when we knew the elderly are by far the most at risk........Should we call them Murderers? Mass Murderers?

 

Quote: 'it’s amazing with no mandates SD managed less deaths per million than many states with sweeping, enforced mandates'

FALSE!

And everything I posted, in one year, out the other............very sad



Well, let's use the right vocabulary/proper English;

A mandate is an ORDER, and Kristi did in fact ORDERED;

a. School closures;

https://www.keloland.com/news/healt...-19-south-dakota-update-1-more-positive-case/

https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/l...cle_14ddb2a4-3a5d-5a1c-b467-eb3327f2392e.html

NOTE: IMO, an order to close schools is a stay-at-home/study at home order, and a lockdown

b. Vulnerable residents of a few counties to stay home until further notice

https://www.keloland.com/news/local-news/new-executive-order-will-target-minnehaha-lincoln-counties/

THUS, state-wide, there were LIMITED actions to control the spread of Covid19

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Although Kristi did not ordered a mask mandate, excluding shoools, closures of non-essential businesses, and enforced Covid19 prevention measures/guidelines, LOCALLY LOCALLY, LOCALLY, there were mask mandates, business/gathering restrictions, ordinances, and lockdowns. In additions, many large events/regular sport seasons were cancelled.

Examples;

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...taurants-sioux-falls-south-dakota/3033632001/

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...s-public-places-indoor-businesses/5744128002/

https://www.argusleader.com/story/n...akota-coronavirus-update-covid-19/2914811001/

https://www.keloland.com/news/healt...-mandate-working-to-keep-covid-19-cases-down/

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-st...servation-going-into-lockdown-due-to-covid-19

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IN ADDITION, as I stated in my OP, compared to the rest of the country, South Dakota and its Counties, Metros, Urbans, and Cities population/population density are very low, thus, nationally;

SD's population density......ranked 46
SD's largest Metro area population density .....ranked 182
SD's largest Urban area population density.....ranked 112
SD's largest city population density......ranked 232

AND

List of States by percent of Black population......SD ranked 45th

List of States by percent of Seniorts.......SD ranked 23rd

AND ONCE AGAIN, if we were to exclude Native Americans, SD's number of deaths per 1M pop is still 200 deaths above national average, thus, 1,843 versus 1,643.

Here's a question the RIGHT should be asking themselves:

1. Like the state of Maine, why SD's number of deaths per 1M pop ISN'T significantly below national average?

SD's current number of deaths per 1M pop; 2,153
U.S. average; 1,643
Maine; 538

2. Why SD's number of deaths per 1M is significantly/1,000 deaths above Wisconsin's 1,120 covid19 deaths per 1M pop?

Answer; Because generally, when making comparisons, there are ''yeah, buts'', for example; "Obama doubled the debt".......Yeah, but during Obama's Presidency, the Federal Reserve boosted the debt by near $2 trillion, AND during the pandemic, the Federal Reserve also increased the debt by near $2 trillion, thus, which President increased Federal Reserve Balance Sheet? Answer; If not Trump, then certainly not Obama.

LAST, the LEFT should stop criticizing Kristi for her lack of state-wide enforcements to combat the spread of Covid19, and the RIGHT should stop promoting SD as a MODEL for the rest of the country.

 

Fair point on schools, etc. I think that was pretty universal, wasn’t it? But school closure is hardly a stay at home order.

So if local ordinances were similar to state ordered ones elsewhere, what do you blame for SD’s higher than country average death rates? I’m not sure what your position is now.

I’m not interested in the political aspects because I loath Dems and Reps equally. I’m just curious about your opinions on the epidemiological aspects of the SD case study. I’m with you on both sides needing to assess the results of their disparate approaches.

 

Question; What do you blame for SD’s higher than country average death rates?

Main reasons;

1. Several superspreader events, such as the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, thus, due to a lack of enforcement of CDC's prevention guidelines/measures.
2. Due to a high percentage of Native Americans, 8.75% of SD's population, and 280 reported Covid19 deaths.
3. Location; SD is surrounded by 6 states, and there where no quarantine or testing requirements for out-of-state travelers.

Main reasons why SD's number of deaths per 1M pop isn't higher than 2,153;

1. Due to a very low population density, State, Counties, Metros, Urbans, and cities,
2. Due to a very low percentage of Black population,
3. SD has an average percentage of seniors, and seniors in several counties were ordered to stay home.

 

I see nothing at all to support your "black population" claim.

There may be other issues to add. For example, NYC is a major international transportation hub that was not handled well at all.

Today, epidemiologists say that nearly ALL the COVID virus strains in the US came to the US through Europe.

And, SD is not an international transportation hub.

 

Your quote: I see nothing at all to support your "black population" claim.



Indigenous, Black & Pacific Islander Americans have experienced the highest death tolls from COVID-19
Cumulative actual (crude) COVID-19 mortality rates per 100,000, by race and ethnicity, Dec. 8, 2020-March 2, 2021

Indigenous...............250 Covid19 deaths per 100,000

Black & Pacific Islander Americans...........200 Covid19 deaths per 100,000

White/Latino...........150 Covid19 deaths per 100,000

Asian.......................100 Covid19 deaths per 100,000

Since the start of the pandemic.

• 1 in 390 Indigenous Americans has died (or 256.0 deaths per 100,000).......Population; 6.6 million/390 = 16,923
  
  
• 1 in 555 Black Americans has died (or 179.8 deaths per 100,000).......Population; 42 million/555 = 75,675
  
  
• 1 in 565 Pacific Islander Americans has died (or 176.6 deaths per 100,000)......Population; 1.4 million/565 = 2,477
  
  
• 1 in 665 White Americans has died (or 150.2 deaths per 100,000)..........Population; 204 million/665 = 306,766
  
  
• 1 in 680 Latino Americans has died (or 147.3 deaths per 100,000).........Population; 60 million/680 = 88,235
  
  
• 1 in 1,040 Asian Americans has died (or 96.0 deaths per 100,000).........Population; 18.6 million/1,040 = 17,876
  

https://www.apmresearchlab.org/covid/deaths-by-race

Note: SD's Black Population; 2.4% (20,866), number of Covid19 deaths; 41.........and nationally, 75,675 Black Americans died of Covid19

Note: 1 in 555 Black Americans has died (or 179.8 deaths per 100,000)

Therefore, SD's Black population 20,866 divided by 555 = 37, number of reported deaths 41.......we have a match!

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List of U.S. states by African-American population

Note: 1 in 555 Black Americans has died (or 179.8 deaths per 100,000)

1. Texas Black Americans population.....3.908 million........divided by 555 = 7,041.......Total Covid19 deaths; 46,454

45. South Dakota..........20,866

Note: If Texas Black population was White..........3.908 million divided by 665 = 5,876, thus, a difference of 1,165 deaths.

List of U.S. states by percent of Black African population

1. Mississippi...........38.9%..........population; 1.516 million/555 = 2,723.....Total covid19 deaths; 6,883

Note; If Mississippi's Black Population was white; 1.516 million/665 = 2,279.....a difference of 444 deaths, and/or 150 deaths per 1M pop.

45. South Dakota......3%.....

 

There are all manner of correlations you can find.

But, NONE of that shows anything at all about causation.

This is a typical problem with crap and superficial interpretations of data used to confirm preconceptions.

For one obvious example, your pathetic post shows nothing about poverty, political representation, types of employment, or all manner of other factors that have seriously differential effect on our population.

BUT - you want to ignore that.

Right?

 

Doesn’t look we have much disagreement then. We even agree this has been yet another tragedy in a long line of tragedies for a demographic we have unmet obligations to.

 

· If every State had adopted Governor Kristi Noem's hands-off approach ...

~ We would all be better off , more content and less distrustful of government . More people would be alive.

 

I forgot and ignored.......


GENERALLY, what factor reduces the spread of Covid19?

We, The People;

1. Wear masks
2. Social Distancing
3. Frequent handwashing
4. Wear gloves
5. Keep the gathering to a minimum
5. Frequent handwashing
6. Limiting face-to-face contact with others
7. Don’t touch your eyes, nose or mouth
8. Stay home if you might have been exposed to COVID-19, or have symptom(s) of Covid19

Note; On a scale of 1 to 10, a perfect score equates to 80

Government, Federal, State, and Local

9. Cancel/ postpone large public events/festivities
10. Cancel/postponesuperspreader events
11. Public Transportation mitigation
12. Workplace prevention and control measures
13. Mask mandate
14. Testing and contact tracing
15. Isolating/quarantining
16. Gathering restrictions
17. Travel restrictions
18. Closing borders
19. Order non-essential businesses to close
20. Close schools/in-person instruction
21. Stay-at-home order
22. Research and Development
23. Re-open the economy at a low positivity rate

On a scale of 1 to 10, a perfect score equates to 150

Private sector

24. Cancel/postpone/large gathering events
25. Private transportation mitigation
26. Implement prevention and control measures, such as;
27........Facilitate work from home
28......Limit number of staff, clients/customers
29......Schedule frequent cleaning and disinfection of high-touch items
30......Screening/testing employees

On a scale of 1 to 10, a perfect score equates to 80


Existing factors that GENERALLY reduced the spread of Covid19, hospitalizations and fatalities;

31. A good prevention, and universally accessible health care system
32, Health and Wellness programs/activities
33. Organized sports for kids and teens
35. Social programs that have reduced poverty.......there's a link between poverty and poor health

Note: All of the above have reduced Covid19 underlying conditions

36. Digital technology
37. Outdoor employment
38. Low population densities

On a scale of 1 to 10, a perfect score equates to 70

Total perfect score; 380

Mr. WillReadmore, please rate yourself, your federal/state/local governments, your state's private sector, and your state's existing factors, and then, show me your results.

Or,

Do you want to stick to the main reasons?

 

i've started mine.......

1. Wear masks......10
2. Social Distancing......10
3. Frequent handwashing.......5
4. Wear gloves.......10......at gas stations, and opening public doors
5. Keep the gathering to a minimum.......10
5. Frequent handwashing......5
6. Limiting face-to-face contact with others......10
7. Don’t touch your eyes, nose or mouth.......1 (knowingly and unknowingly, I do it all the time)
8. Stay home if you might have been exposed to COVID-19, or have symptom(s) of Covid19......10

71 out of 80

Government, Federal, North Dakota, and Local

9. Cancel/ postpone large public events/festivities......5........local gets a 10, minus 5 Federal, mainly political rallies
10. Cancel/postpone superspreader events........5........State/local combined gets a 10, minus 5 Federal
11. Public Transportation mitigation.......6.......State/Local ordered several public transport mitigation measures, however, mostly educational than SHALL
12. Workplace prevention and control measures........9.......Government buildings were near empty,
13. Mask mandate........5.......state-wide, however, only when the situation was out of control
14. Testing and contact tracing........3.......State gets a 5, Local gets a 5, minus 7 Federal
15. Isolating/quarantining.........7......not a 10 due to lack of enforcements
16. Gathering restrictions........6......in accordance to Federal guidelines, however, not enforced
17. Travel restrictions..........5.......State 0, Local 0, Fed gets a 5
18. Closing borders..................7.......State 0, Local gets 1 (access to Indian Reserves), Federal gets a 5.......
19. Order non-essential businesses to close..........1......a few local orders
20. Close schools/in-person instruction.........SD gets a 5.......College and Universities, initially ZERO......due to infected students travelling back to rural areas........Note; due to said reason, a well known and very kind local farmer died.......64 years old.
21. Stay-at-home order..........2.......a few local orders
22. Research and Development........Federal gets a 5........Operation Wharp Speed MINUS CDC screw ups = 5
23. Re-open the economy at a low positivity rate......3.......in some counties, capacity restrictions were lifted at a low positivity rate, however, generally, capacity restrictions were imposed when the situation was out of control.

Total score; 74 out of 150

Note; My governments have failed, however, individually, I didn't

 

I just realized I missed; Protection of Nursing Homes/Long Term Care facilities.