Examples of actual rioters

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want to point out a simple truth. I was reading claims made by A woman named Zoe Williams that Trump was a dictator. Frankly I never saw Trump acting in any way like a Dictator. A good example is masks. Trump did not want to dictate to you that you wear masks. Biden on the other hand has issued rules that amount to laws on masks.

    This photo shows an example of a genuine Riot.

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    This pales in contrast to the Trump supporters. We wanted a fair election. They wanted to overturn the Trump election by force.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ald-trump-lessons-from-hannah-arendt-protests
     
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    Um their just standing around with signs.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well using that standard, on January 6 we had a much smaller repeat of those carrying signs.

    Did you notice their messages?
     
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    I'll point out some simple truths:

    1. Trump was not a dictator by any reasonable metric.

    2. Trump was a relatively good President.

    3. Trump ruined this by handing unified control of Congress to the opposition through his suicidal comments during the Georgia do over.

    4. I will not forgive him for this.

    5. January 6th was a riot.

    6. Protests are complicated, the whole thing is rarely a clean protest or riot. Most people were there to protest.

    7. The image you posted was not a riot, at least not as shown in the image.

    8. The right to protest is a subset of freedom of expression. Arrest any rioters, give them the maximum, precisely so that good people can protest peacefully. Leave genuine protestors alone.

    9. If you are breaking and entering, deliberately obstructing traffic, burning buildings or looting you're no longer a protestor and you should be arrested and given the maximum penalty.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Photos of the Trump protesters are not examples of riots. If you listened to the pink hat crowd, you know very well they were rioting.

    Trump did not change the GA election.
    January 6 was not a riot.

    Apparently you too wanted Trump to remain as president.
     
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    Then it would an invasion.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amusing to read that given that the law has never charged any protestor for being a terrorist.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The law has not yet charged any Trump supporter for any invasion.

    If you recall the threats by Madonna caused her tons of legal troubles. She wanted to blow up the White House due to Trump being elected our great president.
     
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    Well they committed acts that if they were doing to someone's home it would be called a home invasion, but I don't know what the legal term is for doing the same at someone's workplace.
     
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    Trump supporter Jon Schaffer has pleaded guilty to two charges, including entering a restricted building with
    a dangerous weapon stemming from the Jan 6th invasion of the Capitol. Trump supporter Robert Packer was arrested and charged
    with trespassing in a Federal Building and violent entry. Jake Angeli was arrested and charged with violent entry of a Federal
    Building. Doug Jenson, a Trump supporter was charged with violent entry. Richard Barnett has been arrest and charged
    with violent entry and theft of Public property. Derrick Evans, a Trump supporter has been charged with violent entry ... those
    are just a few of the 100+ who have been identified ...

    Don't know what dream world you live in where you can try and claim that no Trump supporter was charged
    with invasion (violent entry).
     
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    Did you notice that 50 officers were injured during the Trump insurrection of Jan 6th ...

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    Exactly. That isn't a riot. None of those people are doing anything violent. None are throwing things at police. None are storming any government buildings. None are smashing windows or spraying chemicals into the faces of police officers, or beating them with flagpoles, or threatening to shoot them with their own guns.

    The right wants to equate protests like this with the seditious attack on the Capitol, but they keep coming up empty. Pathetic.
     
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    Millions of screaming Democrats all over the streets and yet you can't bring yourself to call it a riot?

    Show proof it was the Trump supporters tossing at the cops? By the way the husband of the dead Woman has gone public.

    I laugh you do not call the wanting to blow up the Whitehouse normal business.
     
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    Oh ffs. In what way was that crowd rioting? Please point it out, because I certsinly don't see any violent behavior in that photo. Screaming is not rioting it's protesting, something legal and ver, very American. Its4our privilege, and oyt responsibility, to protest out government's actions of inactions. This country was founded by protesters.

    Look at any of the videos of the Jan. 6 attack on our Capitol. Those were all Trump supporters, including the woman who got shot and killed after ignoring shouted warnings from the armed officer.
     
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    I would put forth that what happened on Jan 6th was completely within reason. Allow me to explain.

    In short, the people on Jan 6th felt as though their vote was stolen. Moreover they felt as though every court refused to see evidence of those claims of fraud or perform a full and open investigation into their concerns.

    So what other option do they have? Let’s assume for a moment the democrats did cheat. The people would be fully within their rights and, I would argue, obligations to contest said vote.

    Those people who felt as though their constitutional and god given right to voice their vote had been stolen from them, were following every court case as they got shot down one after another, not based upon any factual standing but based upon the court determining literally NOONE has the standing to sue over this issue and therefore no evidence can be presented and no transparent investigation will occur.

    When you break the law, take away someone’s vote and then refuse them ANY LEVEL of recourse... what other option do they have? The only other options are to simply submit and say the other side can cheat in perpetuity because no one is going to stop them... or you have to cross that line into physicality. What other recourse do they have?

    Especially when the remaining republicans don’t have a pair of balls between them.
     
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    Uh Oh, looks like we have another uninformed poster
    Let me show you what riots look like
    I guess you need to be taken to school.
    Here's lesson number 1

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    I can get about 1000 more of these, I bet you can too if you go frame by frame taking screenshots of the capital riot, I don't even have to do that there are so many liberal violent riots
    You are welcome for the lesson
    no charge!
     
  19. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks and you posted photos I myself posted but on a different forum.
     
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    Democrats call the tiny number attending rioters. They were not rioting. The few who made trouble were probably pissed off the Capitol police killed an innocent woman.

    Chauvin got convicted. Time to convict the capitol police for their violence.
     
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    What a load of horse pucky.

    In 2000, Democrats stopped fighting results and accepted the election once the SCOTUS ruled. Gore's concession speech was how a grown-up handles defeat. We bitched and moaned, some still do, but we did not conduct a violent attack against our own government. We marched, we protested ... then most of us got some cheese to go with the whine and lived with it. Pretty much the same in 2016, without taking it to the SCOTUS.

    This time, more than 60 courts tossed the so-called fraud cases out not for any lack of standing, but for a complete lack of evidence. The SCOTUS simply refused to hear one case because those bringing it were not from the state whose results were being questioned, but that was lacking in evidence as well.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-plug-on-election-related-cases-idUSKBN2AM1S1

    The Trumpers who attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 were constantly fed the Big Lie by Trump and his political supporters. If they had had the courage to check their sources and find information from neutral sites like Reuters and AP, perhaps they would not have been in such a desperate frenzy. But being misled is no excuse for the violence that ensued from these people you're trying to make into victims.

    The GOP's only platform or policy these days is the victim/grievance culture.
     
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    I can prove even democrats know the vote is not legitimate.

    Pennsylvania could not count votes or verify signatures until Election Day. By Wednesday morning they asserted they had counted half of the 2.6M or so mail in ballots they received.

    Do you HONESTLY believe that they verified the signatures of 1.3M mail in votes AND counted them in less than 24 hours?

    Especially when you consider a TRAINED signature verification expert takes several minutes to verify even one signature. And the state was having them “verified” by people with little to no training in signature verification.
     
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    I noticed they were not trying to reverse the election by threatening US law makers with violence unless they declared the loser the winner...
     
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    I do not define violence as Democrats do. When they are managing a city that people in the street put to the torch, they see it as peaceful protest. The woman in the capital was in no way dangerous. She died being shot. Floyd died under a cops knee. She died under a cops bullet. He was not justified in murdering her.
    Chants were all over in 2017 to get Trump out of office. It was just when he was sworn in. That was an attempt to overthrow Trump. Democrats kept trying to overthrow him for his full term.

    Supposedly in a self governing country, we are the power. The police are to keep order. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the capitol police and she allowed protesters to be gassed by cops playing the victim role as if the common unarmed person is a danger.

    Now the authorities claim those that died during the protest were died due to natural causes. Babbitt family is suing for $10 million dollars and the way citizens sue the cops, I expect her family to win the suit. She has the major disadvantage of being white.

    Biden and his mob never would allow the cop to be charged so the recourse now is to sue for money. The family should win.

    https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...nd-me/65-2719f8c2-0d5c-4a0e-a60c-3cbff754b659

     
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    Wrong.
     

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