Iran is selected to sit on UN women's rights panel?

Do you really except people to like us when we're bombing them or starving them with sanctions? Would you if you were in their position?

 

I don't care if people don't like us. I want out of the UN because it doesn't benefit the U.S.

 

So we disagree.

 

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It's irrelevant to the argument, but concerning riots in America.
People would loot and burn shops. If I was head honcho I would
declare those burned out businesses remain as they are. The
looters would have to shop in another suburb.

Yes, Westerners have little idea of how badly Muslim and 'third
world' countries think of them.

 

Never heard of it, but sure, it can happen, might happen. But
such practices don't speak of Western liberal democracies -
they sure speak a lot about Chinese racist behavior toward
their Muslim minorities.

nb China won't have the problem with an ascendant Islam
that Europe is having.

 

We can both agree you on the point that you got nothing but unfounded resentment for a bigger governmental agency where the US has no control over.

 

It happens in Canada. "We just sterilized you and we're sorry. Next patient please". On a lesser thing. I'm rather sure women are underpaid in the west, and black women are underpaid even more.

So you can indeed say women are better off in the west than in Iran. That's hardly a contest. It still takes an odd country like Iran to stick it to the Canada to ask about how the hell are you lot still sterilizing minorities against their will? They will gloat at the opportunity. And the only thing we can all agree is... OMG f*cking hell, Iran is right. Who the hell is this still legal?

Personally. I want names of them doctors who do that, and the people behind it who certify it or something. Let's have it.

And you need Iran, because the west fails those women. We have.

And China has a problem with Islam in the same way they also have a problem with Tibetan Buddhist. It's a religion with a leader. A leader who is not part of the communist party, and so by definition a threat and it needs to go.

 

You wouldn't want doctor's names. They do what society tells me to do.
Right now there's doctors sterilizing kids who think they are in the wrong
body. And it's not 1900 but 2021. Google 'Tavistock UK'
And there's doctors applying euthanasia to people who are not terminally
ill but bored, lonely, mentally ill and handicapped. Just because society says
it's okay (but wasn't okay 10 years ago.)

Doctors do what they are told to do. Their conscience is problematic because
conscience is closely connected to societal standards - and killing that old
lady because (like 40% of euthanasia patients) she feels she's just a burden
on society should be a problem because your conscience is about global
warming, health care budgets and the like.

ps I am sure many Iranian women feel sorry for Western women with their
broken homes and sexualized society.

 

Or even apartheid state "Israel"? LOL

If the UN wants to be taken halfway seriously, they shouldn't accept such unsavory states as members.

 

Society didn't know this was going on... and they can just guess that society doesn't want it, and so they can refuse.

This also comes with the approval of the patient. So this is an entirely different matter in my eyes. An old person who becomes blind, deaf and is wheelchair bound has just become a person trapped in the smallest of prisons. It's worse than getting a life sentence in solidary confinement.

There is something to be said about that. And it's not Taliban Afghanistan. Women can go to college and get a job. In fact, more women go to college there than men which is not uncommon in Muslim nations. A common misconception is that all the bad things of any given muslim nation get combined to form 1 picture. I've had discussions with people who were poised to claim that they can't go to college and can't even drive a car. While driving a car is only a thing in Saudi Arabia as far as I know, and it's ending thing. And not going to school is a Taliban and co thing and not a national policy anywhere as far as a I know. Most only have a dress code.

 

Peace, through superior firepower!!!

 

You keep ignoring the fact that Russia had nukes too. The difference between Russia and the US is that we only protected our missile silos, while Russia protected its cities - mostly Moscow.

As for the Cuban missile crisis, this is what we were not told. The reason the Soviet ships turned back was not because Khruschev was testing our resolve and Kennedy called his bluff. This was a false narrative that gave rise to the idea that Russia is aggressive and likes to test others.

The real reason the Soviet ships turned back was because Kennedy gave Khruschev what he wanted in exchange, and that was to remove our missiles from Turkey since they posed a direct threat to the Soviet Union.

Motto: Don't believe everything our government tells you. They lie!

 

They didn't have a missile defense system nearly as capable as the US. US military capability was far superior. The Soviet Union couldn't keep up.

 

It wasn't an issue of quantity. It was an issue of effectiveness and quality. Once you do some research and figure out what you're trying to talk about, we can continue. Until then, I'm done

 

As opposed to to all the other nuclear short ranged nuclear weapons deployed by the US in Western Europe at the time of the Cuban Crisis"? Obviously they posed no risk to the USSR at all . E.G. at that time the US also had intermediate range nuclear weapons deployed in Western Europe including Thor IRBMs based in England and Matador and Mace cruise missiles in Germany. They went no-where! And that's forgetting all the forward deployed air dropped bombs available.

From 'The Cuban Missile Crisis: A nuclear order of battle, October and November 1962 by Robert S Norris & Hams M Kristensen

'At peak alert on November 4, the US Strategic Air Command forces that were ready for employment in retaliatory attacks included 1,479 bombers, 182 ballistic missiles, for a total of something like 3000 plus* nuclear weapons, plus 1,003 refueling tankers.The Soviet Union had approximately 42 ICBMs capable of reaching the United States, no SLBMs and a long-range bomber force of 150 Bear and Bison bombers and zero tankers. Opposing this force in total? The soviet union had perhaps between 300 and 500 nuclear weapons.

Note: figures differ slightly from quoted depending on source.

And only those bombs delivered by ICBM were more or less guaranteed strikes on the continental United States since bombers would have successfully penetrate NORAD's defenses to deliver their payloads of love.

So, still think Khrushchev 'got what he wanted' in exchange?

After all the political and financial capital expended in placing the missiles in Cuba in the first place the concessions achieved by Moscow amounted to little more than a face saving gesture for Khrushchev to take to the Politburo. Hell, he didn't even bother consulting other members of the Politburo before accepting! He just accepted the offer as soon as he got it (in private), and delivered it to them more or less as a fait accompli.

And that's simply because such was the US lead at the time in nuclear weapons deployment that at the end of the day the withdrawal of those few IRBMs from Italy and Turkey changed nothing. Yes, Russia would eventually catch up but don't try and paint the Cuban Missile crisis as some kind geopolitical 'victory' for the Soviet Union, it wasn't anything of the sort.

 

We aren't starving them. Their leaders, who are living large, are starving them.

 

Ah, you miss the subtle points - in America Kennedy could say to the general public
he won without concessions. But still the media freely gave the whole story. In Russia
and places like it there's one story - the governments.

 

America is so biased it thinks Iran is a third world country while states in America look like third world countries.

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Why should we continue to listen to USA?
They always block Palestine, they regard Hamas as terrorists, they aid Israel, and hold a world view that doesn't reflect reality, I say **** 'em if they don't want to change, Ireland are leading the fight against Israel, what are America doing in the fight against Israel? Nothing. Because they refuse to see Israel as the state terrorists they are and the apartheid state that it is.

It's 2021, not 1991, America is a third world country now full of political instability blocking peace when it blocks Palestine. Of course when something like Iran has a representative, Americans don't understand why because they've fallen off and aren't very well educated so can't understand why something contradicts its own narrative (and nobody else's).

 

Or Alabama, the UN saw some states in the South and likened them to 3rd world countries in 2021.

Stop spending $4bn on Israel and start spending that on Alabama and Missouri, because they need it.
Hell, 1 in 3 adults in Mississippi can't even spell Mississippi!

Fix your own **** first before you support more baby killers in Israel due to American ignorance and Islamophobia.

 

Really... the USSR was far more advanced in rocket technology. They got a first dog in space, first person in space... and their space station orbited the earth long after the fall of the USSR when that space station got replaced. The US eventually stopped using their rockets to go into orbit, and relied on the superior but old USSR technology to go to the space station. Take that into account when they had about the double amount of tonnage of nuclear bombs compared to the US.. totally ready to blow up the entire world X-times over. The idea that the US was superior is really not based on anything but pride. It does not count.

 

Oh then it's the Syrian leaders who burned the crops, stole millions of sheep and sanctioned them? Great rationale there.

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And today Russia has 'Sputnik' the first vaccine, the safest vaccine, and the most economical vaccine for corona virus, yet we've been defaming it, and stopping countries from buying it with a total indifference to the lives lost.

I see it as genocide and just another means for the elite to kill off and lessen the world population as they make billions on the other vaccines - while at the same time destroying economies so they could bring about their own corporate controlled world government.

They must be so proud of themselves. Soviet Union anyone?

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Mm, their space station staying in orbit a long time isn't dependent on how advanced Soviet rocket technology was.

We did opt to rely on Soyuz instead of investing in our own rocket technology, which seems to have been some combination of penny-pinching and making nice with post-Soviet Russia. Too bad Putin decided to screw that all up.

The question of superiority is a very complicated one to answer, since there are countless areas to look at and compare. If one points to Apollo and deep space exploration, though, America has always been far superior. But that, too, is a limited scope and no basis to say that one nation was superior over another, full stop.

 

Their space station outshined western technology for decades. And the west using their Soyuz rockets was because the western technology wasn't reliable and they started from scratch again. So coming back to who actually was superior to the other, you can't say it was the US.... when the USSR was that good and had double the amount of nuclear tonnage.

This is about military superiority. As in who had the technology to blow up the other.