The New Climate Reality

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by MiaBleu, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. Bowerbird

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    That is correct but I CAN and do read peer reviewed appear, whcich is more than the denialists on this thread have done so far
     
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    Oh! Robert Robert Robert! Still having difficulty with the idea of diffusion of gases?


    Co2 proven
     
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    True but at the same time it can be an indicator of climate sine weather, averaged over time, is climate
     
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    Informal or not there are rules in science and if you want to discuss science then stick to the rules otherwise you are posting opinion and that is worthless.
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    Good Lord. Where do you come up with this stuff? By your definition:

    —Issac Newton’s work, not science.
    —The works of Galileo, not science.
    —The discoveries of Al-Razi, not science.
    —The body of knowledge discovered by Ibn-Sina, not science.
    —Einstein’s miracle year publications, not science
    —By today’s standards, Watson and Crick’s 1953 papers describing structure of DNA, not science.

    SMH.
     
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    I’ve taken the bus south from D.C. to Richmond. If the drivers and passengers north of D.C. are anything like the ones going south, they ought to pay you $40 to ride the bus! :)
     
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    That would be a dream, wouldn't it? But don't you think it might have been just a bad day? I can't help but believe that most people are good and just want to get from point A to point B without causing anyone any trouble. Anyway, it's hard not to notice you have really draconian environmental protections in the US. The cost of railroads will be prohibitively high.
     
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    And we're spending how much? To do what?

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/27/kerry-zero-emissions-wont-make-difference-in-climate-change/
     
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    Yes, there are rules in science. They don't apply here. Life is too short to continue to try to coax discussion out of someone determined to avoid it. Good luck in your future endeavors.
     
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    No problems mate

    Good luck convincing people that opinion is the same as science

    Well one more has given up because they were either too scared to read the real science or could not be bothered to learn how to critically think and analyse data.

    It staggers me that not one denialist has ever taken up the challenge to actually look at and read the science - the IPCC reports despite the fact those reports have more influence on how the world will deal with climate change than all the blogs on the internet combined
     
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    So you are not peer reviewed. Science does not sit still.
    But results not proven are still false.

    So many scientists are not in agreement. Ad hom? By you perhaps?
     
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    Just Ad hom.
     
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    What have you done so far?
     
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    We are not denialists. Please, no more ad hom.
     
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    Its new in the sense that is has shattered old records by a wide margin.
     
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    The hottest period was in 1898.
     
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    That is what I have been trying to get you to understand.
    Ergo a week of heat does not mean climate changed.
     
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    2020 was the warmest on record, but I am referring to the temps in Canada and Russia where previous records have been shattered (not that it is evidence of man made global warming, - its not).
     
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    It figures.... I am not saying the recent heat wave is evidence of GW either. But some folks reject ALL the evidence supporting GW.
     
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    When all else fails discredit the messenger. None of this should be personal.
     
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    https://climate.washington.edu/state-records/
    Washington State Records
    Extreme Days
    • Hottest temperature ever recorded: 118°F at Ice Harbor Dam on 5 August 1961 and at Wahluke on 24 July 1928.
    • Lowest temperature ever recorded: -48°F at Mazama and Winthrop on 30 December 1968.
    • Most rain in 24 hours: 14.26″ at Mt. Mitchell #2, 23-24 November 1986.
    • Most snow in 24 hours: 65″ at Crystal Mountain on 24 February 1994.
    • Maximum snow depth: 367″ at Rainier Paradise on 9 & 10 March 1956.
    The hottest temperature ever recorded anywhere in Oregon is 119 degrees, a record set in Pendleton on Aug. 10, 1898.6 days ago

    Perspective on the heat: The Northwest was hotter than the ...
    https://www.opb.org › article › 2021/06/29 › perspective-...
     
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    Who are you trying to discredit?
     
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    Previous record was 45C (in the place in question, which was not WA), and they clocked 49.5C, and that qualifies as "shattering" a record.

    It is what it is. Whats the point in trying to deny it?
     
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    We have been discussing the local part of the USA, specifically the pacific north west.

    In fact when I sweep area after area, records are commonly from the area of around the latter 1800s and in some cases the period containing the year 1913 and also an era called the dust bowl in the mid 1930s.,

    My advice is stay cool., You are not in danger.

     

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