AZ Audit: 74,000 Ballots Returned With NO RECORD Of Being Sent Out

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Stay away from the Moscow Pundit. You'll be happier and probably better informed. It is a political, online equivalent to this:

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    Seriously. I don't know how long you've been reading that joke of a site, but it has been publishing absolute trash for many years, and it regularly appeals to conspiracy theorists with such stories. That is its target audience. It has no journalistic standards.

    I feel dread because of millions of people embracing a lie that is absolutely toxic to our democracy and the survival of our country. You don't even understand what constitutes evidence and what doesn't.

    What's the highest level of education you have received?
     
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    In all seriousness I feel the same way about your reaction to this.

    You are taking these people at their word as if they could and would never lie or be mistaken.

    Why can they not present their findings and proof in an actual hearing where people are sworn in so there are repercussions for lying and where the other side is allowed to ask questions and respond to the claims.

    But this never happens, nobody is every sworn in, the other side is never allowed to talk or question or respond to charges being made. All we get is one side of the story.

    But that is all you want or need. You do not give a flying **** about the truth.
     
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  3. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Missing serial numbers, so they can't be matched to the original
    so how many massive so-called "errors" needs to happen before you start thinking of fraud? Or will you ever?
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My reaction would be the same from any logical rational person that looked at the evidence that it is undisputable that fraud was committed
     
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    There is nothing rational about you. You are looking at one side of the evidence and that is all you wish to see.

    As as wise man once told us....The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Since no one has been indicated for election fraud you apparently don’t know what it means…

    Do you hear how absolutely stupid that sounds?
    Nvm, I forgot who I was talking to
     
  7. Durandal

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    That alone is not evidence of fraud. You're not even in possession of all the facts. You're just leaping to the conclusion you want to believe in based on one thing. The whole truth his bound to be a lot more mundane than your imagination and the Moscow Pundit are telling you.
     
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    Re: The Gateway Pundit


    2016 election
    The Gateway Pundit promoted false rumors about voter fraud and Hillary Clinton's health.[30][42][43][44] Specifically, rumors of Hillary Clinton's poor health were disseminated via The Gateway Pundit's articles entitled, "Breaking: 71% of Doctors Say Hillary Health Concerns Serious, Possibly Disqualifying!" and "Wow! Did Hillary Clinton Just Suffer a Seizure on Camera?"[42][44] Regarding voter fraud, The Gateway Pundit published an unsubstantiated report during the 2016 presidential election from the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, claiming that Republicans had accused Broward County, Florida officials of tampering with mail-in ballots.[45]

    Misidentifying shooters and terrorists
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    In October 2017, The Gateway Pundit published an article falsely implicating an innocent person as the shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. The article was promoted by Google as a "top story" for searches for his name.[47] Gateway Pundit asserted that New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi had reported that ISIS may have evidence that it was behind the shooting, but Callimachi denied that she had ever made such an assertion.[48]

    Shortly after the 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, in which a person drove a vehicle into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one, The Gateway Pundit falsely identified a young man from Michigan as the driver.[49] After the misidentification took place, the family went into hiding after receiving several death threats.[50][51] Together with his father, the Michigan man filed a defamation lawsuit against the publication and other related parties.[49]

    The Gateway Pundit promoted conspiracy theories about Stoneman Douglas High School shooting.[52] In February 2018, The Gateway Pundit published an article erroneously stating that school shooter Nikolas Cruz was a registered Democrat, citing a registered Broward County voter with a similar name. The website later corrected its mistake.[53][54] Later that month, Gateway Pundit was one of a number of far-right websites that pushed the claim that at least one of the teenage survivors of Stoneman Douglas High School shooting was a deep state pawn,[55] alleging that David Hogg's gun control activism was being coached by his retired FBI agent father.[56]

    In July 2018, Gateway Pundit falsely claimed that a man arrested with bomb-making equipment and illegal weapons had been a "leftist antifa terrorist". The individual in question was however a conservative whose Facebook profile was littered with pro-Second Amendment memes.[57]

    In August 2018, Gateway Pundit falsely identified a Reddit user as the perpetrator of the Jacksonville Landing shooting.[58]

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    In December 2017, The Gateway Pundit published a Reddit post as evidence that Democratic activists were committing voter fraud in the 2017 Alabama Senate special election.[59] The redditor behind the post later said that the post was intended "as an obvious troll."[59] When asked by The Washington Post, the writer of the Gateway Pundit post declined to say whether he had contacted the redditor to verify the information; later the Gateway Pundit story contained an update at the bottom: "Liberals say these are fake Reddit posts(?) Regardless, the posts are still up on Reddit and the posters are still encouraging Democrats to cheat."[59] Also in December 2017, Gateway Pundit published a story falsely saying that Facebook had taken down a previous Gateway Pundit story about the Alabama election, when in fact a Facebook algorithm had made it less prevalent after it had been flagged as fake news.[60]

    In April 2018, The Gateway Pundit falsely claimed in a headline that two prominent African-American conservative video bloggers – Diamond and Silk – had been censored by Facebook.[61]

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    In November 2020, The Gateway Pundit erroneously stated that a software glitch during the 2020 United States Presidential Election led to 10,000 votes in Rock County, Wisconsin, being "moved" from incumbent president Donald Trump to his opponent, Joe Biden; the article was then promoted by Eric Trump, President Trump's son and executive vice president of the Trump Organization. The article was disputed by the Associated Press, which stated that the supposed discrepancy was caused by a technical error in AP's reporting of results obtained from Rock County's election website, an error that was resolved within minutes and did not pertain to the counting of actual ballots. Rock County clerk Lisa Tollefson stated that The Gateway Pundit reported incorrect information, and that the county stood by the final tally. The Wisconsin Elections Commission later added: "The AP’s error in no way reflects any problem with how Rock County counted or posted unofficial results. The WEC has confirmed with Rock County that their unofficial results reporting was always accurate. [...] These errors have nothing to do with Wisconsin’s official results, which are triple checked at the municipal, county and state levels before they are certified."[69][70][71]

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    Yet you ignore all the logical rational people that looked at the evidence and determined no fraud was committed… strange confirmation bias you have.

    What will be your opinion when this fizzes out like the last dozen or so did… two more weekskrakenvotes in briefcasesvans full of fraudulent votessuper secret holographic seals

    Your narrative has been consistently proven to be fraudulent
     
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    I hope you come back to these forums when there is no Court hearing and nothing ever comes of these sham audits and sham GQP Senate hearings.
     
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    Let me ask you this…in a few months when the Dems come out with their one sided investigation into Jan 6th filled with “indisputable evidence”, will you accept it as quick as you have this?
     
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    believing you can have more ballots returned than sent out which is physically impossible is neither logical nor rational
    believing this can be explained away as a clerical error is neither logical nor rational not 74,000
    believing the first recount done by the corrupt election board didn't catch that 74,000 error is neither logical nor rational
     
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    There's a reason why Maricopa Country isn't turning over evidence the auditors need.....since it would likely incriminate them.

    I bet the ballot envelope images are suddenly 'accidentally' destroyed. I have my doubts there are 74,000+ envelopes that would coincide with the excess ballots.

    And I bet those excess ballots are the ones that weren't printed on the proper paper as authorized by Maricopa County.

    Still a ways to go. After listening to the whole press conference, anyone without an agenda would say that these guys are doing a very thorough job.
     
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    If it's so easily proven, why has trump been shot down every time he's taken it to court so????
     
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    Think about it: You said believing you can have more ballots returned than sent out is neither logical nor rational but yet here you are trying to convince us that is what happened. If it's neither logical nor rational why the hell are you believing it??
     
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    the real shams was in KY, SC & ME where the incumbent senators polled at -10 minimum, yet won at +10 minimum.

    they all had es&s machines which are hackable. the soviet play is to accuse those of the crimes you commit yourself.

    es&s is the real fraud company. they changed votes to align with vlad’s agenda.
     
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    you answered my question you will never
    so stop wasting peoples time demanding evidence
     
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    You, a person that didn't watch the audit press conference today, should NOT be talking about "you do not give a flying **** about the truth".

    They aren't finished with the audit. Maricopa County officials are obstructing the audit. When they are done, I'm sure there will be a time for sworn testimony.

    Why are you so damn worried?? Maybe Joe won fair and square? :laughing:
     
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    What happened the 74,000 were never sent out
    they were fabricated fakes frauds and or ballots were double scanned
     
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    Which is some wild assed theory. You have absolutely no proof. Get over it for christ sakes.
     
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    the physical count and examination of the ballots is complete the computer forensic part isn't because they wont to let them gain access to the system
    and AZ senate is doing another count of the ballots on hand just a total count
    and i don't see how either of what is left to do will change anything we learned today
     
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    There were 175,000 test ballots in the Democratic Primary in New York City that were originally counted before one of the candidates said something isn't right. The NYC election board then went back and caught their mistake and did a quick recount.

    With this fresh news, one must wonder.
     
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    LOL

    Demanding evidence is not wasting time. At least, not to someone who isn't a conspiracy theorist.
     
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    This is one of the issues Liberal Justice Stevens commented on when announcing the Courts 6-3 2008 decision in
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawford_v._Marion_County_Election_Board
    So, the State has a legitimate interest in; preventing voter fraud, modernizing elections, and safeguarding voter confidence. In balancing that against the burden of obtaining ID he wrote:
    Scalia concurred in judgment, adding:
    Between the brackets of those two views we find the vast majority of the American People.

    "Monmouth University’s poll of adult voters between July 9 and 14 found that 80 percent support voter ID law measures, whereas only 18 percent opposed it."

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    I'm sure that is with the understanding that the ID is very inexpensive, if not free, and easy to obtain.

    In this Great Nation we want it Easy To Vote and Hard To Cheat.
     
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    We found thousands of duplicated ballots with missing serial numbers in Maricopa’

    Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett testified about the difficulties his team is facing finding serial numbers to ensure duplicate ballots were only counted once. “We found, I would have to say, thousands of duplicate ballots where those serial numbers are not on them. So it’s created great difficulty to try to match up a duplicated ballot to its duplicate.”

    Duplicated ballots with missing serial numbers, so they can't be matched to the originals

    Senate President Karen Fann then asked: “If the corresponding numbers aren’t on there, how would you know if it was duplicated once or ten times?”

    Bennett replied: “You wouldn’t.”

    So those thousands of so-called "duplicate ballots" could be run not just once but who knows how many times like 74,000 times
     
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