Infrastructure Bill passes senate 69-30.

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  1. Wynn Sayer

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    I've actually seen a lot of good things so far, just waiting for the other shoe to drop..

    All except the crackdown on cryptocurrency.

    People should get out of crypto now. Take the money and run! They are going to ruin it.

    We'll see how the whole thing plays out. If America doesn't like it, there will be blowback.
     
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    such a small, closed mind you have.

    do these look like stage coaches...

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    We are also behind on the Stage Coach form of transport.
    Do not think because the Japanese or Koreans or even China does it, it is best.
    China can tightly control costs. China owns the land. So it builds where it wants to build.
    Rail for America is like going back to the whale oil lamps.
     
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    The infrastructure for Amtrak already exists this is just subsidies to get someone to ride the damn thing
     
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    Europe is vastly different.
    And those are not American locomotives.
    Stop attacking me. It is your main stay. And you admit this.
     
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    All of Europe does it as well, and Russia. We are literately the only industrialized nation that does not and it is because of people like you think think a train is just like a stage coach.
     
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    They could be American locomotives if we were not a half a century behind the rest of the modern world.

    then why would I stop?
     
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    I spent time studying Amtrak and a few things came to mind.
    1. Amtrak is not as wide spread as some imagine.
    2. It is not a cheap form of Transport.
    3. It may go 70 miles per hour but airplanes go 550 mph.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    When I want to go slow, I will fly a Piper thank you. Which flies at close to 200 mph.

    Why can't you keep your hate to yourself? Why show up to act like hate is the smart thing to post?
     
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    Why would those be American locomotives?
    For some ungodly reason you want a slow form of Transport to be paid for by everybody.
    This is the truth on Rail.
    A few Americans will ride rail. They may want to go slow. Even 100 mph is slow compared to Airplanes.
    Those few will pay the high price of rail. They may even like paying to park their car.
    It is not that the Airplane ticket is cheap, it is that the Airplane is modern and safe and fast.
     
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    Attacking me he means.

    I am planning a new route for your posts.
    Due to your daily attacks, you will be placed on ignore.
    As much as you hate my guts, you will be pleased I will not pay attention to your rants.
     
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    Truth hurts?
    Truth = attacking?
     
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    Posters: I do not plan to defend Biden as some here keep doing. I do not plan to defend Democrats as some here keep doing.
    Infrastructure is one of my interests. Why this is so will be explained. At one time, early in my life, I earned my living in heavy construction. I worked for example on the BART so called rapid transit. How fast is BART. It hits top speeds of in the area of 70 mph.

    Cars on CA roads go that fast.
    CARs also will take you up and down all roads. BART or Rail has paths. And if you have ever got off of BART and walked a mile down the road, while the exercise is wonderful, in the car you would have long been at your destination.

    RAIL transit in America has been rejected by the Voters.

    Biden trying to force us onto RAILS is like his other pipe dreams. When he stopped the Keystone pipeline, not paid for by Government, he went after you and me. We all use petroleum. Biden does not give a ****.
    Biden wants electric busses even if you are happy with your modern bus that carries you.
    He is Herr Dictator.
     
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    Truth is not in his lexicon.

    There is not a poster posting here that I can't speak truth to.
    I do not attack for many reasons. The above is one of the reasons. The claim it is truth is false. Truth is Biden is a scum bag president. Now that is true.
     
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    so silly to think I hate you, I do not even know you. Hate takes effort and work, and you are worth neither.

    But feel free to put me on ignore, it does not hurt my feelings
     
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    who has defended Biden in this thread?
     
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    FOLKs, America is vast. Europe to show you what it is, is more like our collection of states.
    Europe was laid out centuries ago. In Germany and Holland, where I am more familiar, is pretty flat land. Take your modern Jet Airplane. Would you like your runways going up and down hills?

    Trains to stay level consume more land. Take mountains. They will have to follow curved tracks.

    Airplanes can fly in straight lines. And Jet Airplanes are far faster than Trains. Ticket prices by air are reasonable. And Airplanes do not derail and go off tracks. Rail in America is not cheap. Europe has systems like Parliamentary. Europe citizens also are willing to live different lives. Do you want to live like they live in France?

    When I was in Germany men peed in streets and in alleys. I realize this happens in Democrats cities, but my god, is that what you really want? To follow Europe like you are in love with them?
     
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    Why don't you try to learn the truth?

    He mentioned that fiasco in CA created by Democrats. Damned right the Democrats are a national embarrassment.

    from article

    California voters in 2008 approved nearly $10 billion in bond money to build a high-speed rail line connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco that was supposed to be running by 2020.

    But the project was plagued by cost overruns and delays. Officials now hope to have trains running on a segment through the state's central valley agricultural region by 2029.

    Critics have derided the segment as a “train to nowhere,” but supporters say it’s a necessary test and precursor to linking more populated areas.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/us-restore-1b-californias-troubled-bullet-train-78219874

    So America, hold onto your shorts. You know who will be getting it up their shorts.
    Democrats are forcing you to pay for a failed project in CA.

    Welcome go Bidenworld.

    When California HOPES, you can bet money it will not happen that way, ever.
    CA has NEVER improved things on time and on cost.
     
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    I thought you were putting me on ignore?

    Yes, Democrats are a national embarrassment.

    Yes, Republicans are a national embarrassment.
     
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    There's a "need" for it that doesn't make building it worth the cost. Thanks. This is a simple math problem.

    High speed rails make sense in Japan, with a certain population density.

    I ride a train from Dallas to Houston and get off the train - I still need some sort of transportation to go the 10 miles it is to the nearest point of interest. Our cities are more sprawling than those in Europe or Japan, which folks that argue like you never take into account.
     
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    this is true, the mass transit systems in our cities are a national embarrassment as well
     
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    And perpetually spending money on a system that doesn't really do anything is the definition of stupidity.

    I've been to England five or six times. It's great. You can hop around the city at will with the tubes. It's not like that here.
     

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