Climate change: IPCC report is 'code red for humanity'

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  1. HB Surfer

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    I have close friends that have worked on Fusion in Top Secret places. They tell me it's nowhere near a viable solution. I would be all with you if we had it, but we don't. Nuclear is the best we have right now if you are truly about Climate Change.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I tend to think that if we put as much effort and money into Fusion Energy as we put into building the Atomic bomb we could develop it in about the same amount of time. Fission is VERY expensive to develop and not nearly as environmentally friendly as you seem to think. Why should we invest heavily in a stopgap? Why not just put more money into what will eventually be the real thing?.
     
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    Because modern nuclear is incredibly inexpensive (long term) and is incredibly safe. As we move to Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) things get even better. The first SMR is being built in Utah. SMRs use the nuclear waste from our older plants as fuel, they have zero meltdown potential, and produce zero emissions. You can also get all the power lines out of forests as you can put them virtually anywhere.
     
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    Why does the UN article only evaluate the change from 1850 to current?

    A relatively fragment of time in the planets history.

    There is a reason, see if you can figure it out.
     
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    The worst that can happen is Biden leaves office and Harris becomes president!!!
     
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    By the time Biden is done with his first term, Democrats will have controlled the White House for the previous 12 out of 16 years. Maybe you should start blaming your own party for being unable to do whatever it is you think will temperature control the climate
     
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    Intellectual bias and greed??
     
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    Tru dat. She luvs her some private jetting....
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    When and if that happens in 2024 maybe I will

    Or not, Biden didn't start and continue his term by doing his level best to dismantle and/or undermine all environmental legislation passed in the previous century
     
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    Global Warming (man made or not) is going to happen. That is our current 30,000 cycle.

    If we are so worried about carbon emissions, then why have we not embraced nuclear power? It's the only base load energy viable at this time that is zero emissions. Until that happens, I just tune all this noise out, because nothing else really matters. Nothing else we do will make a bit of difference that matters. If we 100% did Kyoto... no change.
     
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    Because we are waiting for Biden to spend the extra triillion and bring on Fusion and the Millenium/Singularity. Even with your new technologies Fission will still cost a mint and only help for a few decades at best. Fusion will provide unlimited, clean, cheap and safe energy until we start building Dyson Spheres
     
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    He didnt lie, context matters….was he talking about the pre-up, the finals or plane ride hoe, what exactly did Obama watch or not watch based on that exchange ? Lemme answer that for you, you dont know, nor do I. But I’m, sure your going to keep making up whatever makes him look bad
     
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    Again... you are decades away. Greta says we are all done by then. Modern Nuclear and SMRs are the right answer.
     
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    Could they be made smaller yet? I WANT my Atomic Car

    Of course that will only be useful once we Pave the Earth.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon#:~:text=The Ford Nucleon is a,during the 1950s and '60s.&text=The car was to use,those found in nuclear submarines.
     
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    No one in the situation room watch pre-up or plane ride. Jeeeeeesus!!!
     
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    It’s the end of the world as the IPCC knows it, and we feel fine.

    “There is no consensus that Earth is doomed by global warming. And there won’t be such a consensus, no matter how much the authors of the report’s summary choose to hype things up with alarming language.”

    Key Part:
    And this:
    Enough with the Climate Panic Porn
     
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    That's exactly what they said about the atom bomb in 1939 or about traveling to the moon in 1960. Can you dispute for a minute that this nation needs to be unified behind something that will benefit us all? We desperately need to do something "not because it is easy but because it' is hard" IMO
     
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    Indeed. We need to “Build that Wall”. Nothing else comes close in importance.
     
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    Yeah, post it !!!
     
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    Already have.
     
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    The hype runs well beyond the science.
    Bjorn Lomborg Excoriates Climate Hysterics

    Rick Moran, PJ Media

    ". . . . You can see what Lomborg’s argument is. There are two sides to the issue of climate change, and one side is being brutally and systematically suppressed. Lomborg advocates for a longer-term solution to the threat, as some short-term effects on the climate are beneficial. But the trillions of dollars that the West has spent so far and will spend in the future should perhaps be directed to developing economies rather than being wasted on useless climate mitigation efforts."
     
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    Should be used for adaptation, especially where so much building in going on in disaster prone areas.
     
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