'Expert Mathematician' on Election Fraud Actually a Swing Set Installer, Lawsuit Claims

On January 27, the pro-Trump channel OAN broadcast a segment interviewing an "expert mathematician" named Ed Solomon who claimed to have found evidence within precinct-level reporting that the election was rigged by an algorithm. The basis of Solomon's claim is that he found several precincts throughout the country reporting exactly the same results at various times throughout the vote tabulation process.
Asked by host Christina Bobb what the likelihood of what Solomon claimed to have found being a coincidence is, Solomon replied, "You can use the binomial probability formula, and the chance of that event happening is one over ten to an exponent so large there's not enough stars in the universe—there's not enough atoms in the universe to explain the number. It can't happen naturally."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/88n...actually-a-swing-set-installer-lawsuit-claims

Wow.

OAN's Pro-Trump "Expert Mathematician" was actually a Swing Set Installer?

Is anybody surprised?

 

Of course falling for a fake like this is bad for any journalist or news networks' credibility.. but the thing that really gets me is how they simply removed the report rather than making the proper correction on the air. Don't get me wrong, I think its good that they at least removed the fake story, but when you make a mistake on the air, you need to correct that mistake on the air as well. Simply deleting the report from their website isn't enough, they need to broadcast their correction, just like how they broadcasted their mistake

 

There was a lot of this during the initial "hearings' that were held after the election.

The Expert Mathematician used by the Az Senate was a financial planner that had no training nor education in mathematics nor data analysis.

 

My old boss who I installed sewer flow monitoring devices with was also a jet engine mechanic who helped design, build and was responsible for keeping maintained a custom stunt jet that travelled the country doing aircraft acrobatics at air shows. Just because he was 'currently working as a flow monitoring technician' and never got 'certified as a jet engine mechanic' didn't mean he wasn't an expert at jet aircraft mechanics... and no, the jet never crashed.

 

expert at jet aircraft mechanics
Only certified mechanics can determine the man's true ability. I know plenty of non pilots that work on toy airplanes.

For public domain tasks, a certified person is best to perform them.

 

So some dude was posting youtube videos on the subject and OAN snapped him up for an interview without checking his credentials?

 

Of course!

OAN considers this guy to be the Greatest Mathametician since Isaac Newton.

 

I think OAN knew exactly what they were doing, and thought they could get away with it. And, unfortunately, a quick glance through these forums will show you that they DID succeed in part, by convincing at least some people that the election was rigged. There are those out there (or in here) that these "facts" are founded in reality, and never will concede that the election was fair and square. It's easier on them and their psyche to cling to unfounded theories than to admit they were fooled by charlatans.

 

Well that's ridiculous. A piece of paper has absolutely nothing to do with ones true ability. A certification is merely a useful indicator of their general ability to those who don't have the time or inclination to fully test that ability, but even a certification is not a guarantee.

 

Oh really, doctors, professional engineers, pilots, et al; all their certifications are useless.

 

Not what I said. Not even close.

 

Post #9, A piece of paper has absolutely nothing to do with ones true ability

The US military would disagree with you.

 

Considering who Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, and Jive Turkey voted for, not surprised at all.

 

An interesting point, mp.

There is a lot of INCOMPETENCE out there (among certified/licensed "professionals").

And, agreed "certification is not a guarantee".

Current Case in Point:

That Incompetent Loon known as ..."Doctor" Rand Paul...

 

Yes, ones true ability cannot be accurately depicted in a document, it can only be approximated in a document. True ability can only be demonstrated in action and results. BTW deliberately ignoring clarifying context is not a winning debate strategy...

...and the US military is one of the largest, most generalizing bureaucracies on the planet (by necessity, of course). There probably is no better example of an institution where two people with the same 'certifications' could vary so widely in true ability.

 

You mean like this 100% true statement?
"'Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work,' Paul, an eye surgeon, said in the video. 'They don’t prevent infection.'” YouTube suspends Rand Paul after misleading video on masks (local10.com)

Tell me that spittle I saw hit my motorcycle helmet visor couldn't hurt me, go on...

 

Ok, try the financial institutions, a series 7 license. How about operating large equipment, a CDL. ?

That said, the person involved in this audit doesn't belong there, period !!!!

 

I dunno anything about a series 7 license, but a CDL doesn't mean much at all. In our neighboring city ALL the positions require a CDL to apply, even the secretaries that work in the offices processing paperwork and stuff all day. The reason being (I'm told) is that its a lot easier to avoid having to hire certain disabilities without inviting a lawsuit by just requiring a CDL, because you can't sue the DOT for their CDL requirements and you can't sue someone for requiring a CDL for a job. Whether thats the real reason or not, the people working in the city offices sure as hell arent driving dump trucks or school busses, and probably wouldn't be any better at it than I am without a CDL (I have driven truck and operated heavy equipment, just on private property where no CDL was required). They'd certainly be nowhere near as good at it as people who actually use their CDL to drive truck.

And you're probably right about the math guy. Its just that the supporting argument provided: 'he worked building swingsets' doesn't mean anything at all. Einstein worked as a clerk at the patent office for four years after earning his PhD. Michael Faraday, the inventor of the electric motor and electric generator, worked as a book binder and never went to any sort of school. Gregor Mendel developed the modern theory of genetics in his garden at a monastary, but since he hadn't gone to college and 'wasn't an expert', everyone thought it was bunk until 50 years later when Hugo de Vries came across one of Mendel's experiment logs and realized he had discovered how genetics work. The notions that an 'expert' necessarily has to have the proper education, certifications are prerequisite to competence, and competence can be assured by certification are all just bureaucratic elitism unrepresentative of reality.

 

The DNC believe in ONE talent, It's hard for them to realize people actually have the brain power to possess several fields of expertise..

 

You don't need a CDL to operate large equipment! I have operated end dumps, scrapers, back and track hoes, belly dumps, motor graders and so on.. Like I say people with no experience say the darndest things

 

Don't kid yourself. There has never been a Presidential election that was completely "fair and square" - rather the question is always the degree of fraud in a given election.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786718439/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

As opposed to the MAGA crowd who think, "I read something on the internet, therefor I am an expert," is a valid statement.

 

Lol…but trump’s attempted coup did.

 

The notions that an 'expert' necessarily has to have the proper education, certifications are prerequisite to competence, and competence can be assured by certification are all just bureaucratic elitism unrepresentative of reality.
When interviewing for a job, not having one, would be a deal breaker.

 

Jobs at places that operate in a high level of bureaucracy, yes. Though even they often start with a probationary period where continued employment is prerequisite on demonstration of true ability matching certified ability, which is a good indicator that even they don't entirely trust the competency indicated by certifications. Smaller businesses that depend less on bureaucracy often don't require certifications or official training and just let people demonstrate their true ability (or inability) by starting them out at entry level and then increasing their pay based on their actual performance rather than their theoretical performance.