Just so Biden can be educated

Oh look, more ad hom...shocking...

 

It's plainly evident they did not.

 

Yes he could have handled it better.

 

If we pulled out Afghans the Trump crowd would suddenly say…

“Why are we taking all these refugees?”
“Aren’t they trying to destroy our country?”

But if Trump pulled out and left all the Afghans there you’d be praising about how brave he is.

Nothing but worms tilling dirt.

 

Most of the troops were already out. Obama and Trump already did what was needed and our soldiers were not at risk in fighting the war. Pulling them out was unnecessary at that point. We have our troops in Germany, Japan, UK, Spain italy etc. We can keep troops places for Intel, protecting our embassy, ensuring morale and showing support of other allied nations, etc.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/u-s-military-personnel-deployments-country/

 

A lot of Republicans support getting the refugees out.

They are REAL refugees for one and two it was our president that caused their situation so we owe them some consideration.

They should be vetted of course. We don't want taliban sneaking in

 

He may very well be more educated than you are. Please tell us about your degrees and credentials. Biden is a lawyer.

 

I can't argue with that.

 

The first time Biden addressed the nation on this, it was the second day (I think) at 3:45 PM which was a huge mistake; in the middle of a working day (should have been in prime time) so most people didn't watch it, and the highlights never showed the most important part. I didn't watch it (was at work, duh), and heard of the most important part here, actually.

Apparently Biden said that he and the Pentagon did think of a sequence like the OP suggested, but people refused to leave. They (the people who were supposed to be evacuated, both American civilians and Afghans) at the time believed that the Afghan National Army would fight and would keep the Taliban out, so they thought that leaving precipitously would send the wrong message of capitulation and would result in the ANA feeling unmotivated and quitting, which would then precipitate the fall of the country to the Taliban. Apparently the Afghan government said they were positive that they would fight off the Taliban and would end up reaching a power-sharing agreement. Apparently they wanted this in place before the United States slowly pulled off. According to Biden, they still believed in their country and didn't want to abandon it. The Afghan government begged the US to proceed slowly, and Biden's intelligence assured him that it would be at least six months before the Taliban took over.

Then it turned out that these predictions were completed wrong, the Taliban took over in 8 days rather than 6 months, and the ANA did not fight. Instead, the Afghan president fled the country.

So the whole thing became a mess.

Could it have been handled differently? Yes, sure... but the people who made the wrong predictions and the wrong assurances are to blame just as much as Biden. Do I blame Biden? Sure. The buck stops there. But I do think that there is a fair amount of Monday morning quarterbacking going on, and a fair amount of not considering the full issues. What do you do with Afghan civilians and American civilians who refuse to leave? You grab them at gunpoint and force them to leave? Do that and Republicans would have criticized him even more.

Let's not be naïve... Republicans would have crucified Biden no matter what. Any decision, they'd be against. Even pulling out of the country, they blamed Biden for, when the decision to pull out and the treaty with the Taliban were done under Trump and at the time the Republicans didn't issue a peep about it.

Me, I think there is plenty of blame to go around. I blame George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. I blame the Pentagon and the intelligence services. I blame the Afghan government and the Afghan National Army. I blame the American and Afghan civilians who didn't want to leave (and are now desperate to leave and clinging to airplane landing gears, and falling from the sky, showing how wrong they were).

Also, in a situation that lasted for 20 years, and one that three other presidents presided over for 19 years and 5 months, you don't just blame the guy who presided over it for the last 7 months. THAT'S what makes no logical sense.

The bottom line is, I do blame Biden but I'm very far from blaming just Biden like Republicans and most conservative posters here are doing.

And I will add this: a lot of the blame is being assigned due to how bad this looks. Perception is key. But apparently the airport is secure now and people are leaving every hour; both Americans and Afghan refugees.

Have some of the refugees died in the chaos? Yes, apparently 7 did on day 1, likely more will, assassinated by the Taliban. I think that this would have happened no matter what. Even if we had left in the organized manner suggested by the OP, many Afghans would have died anyway. The Taliban are fanatic killers. Now, what I haven't heard of, is the death of a single American since the withdrawal began.

So this is not over yet, and maybe the end result will be that no American will be killed in this situation and they will all leave safely. If this is what ends up happening then the blame I assign to Biden will be smaller. Results matter. And if we all get out safely, then I'll say, whew, what a relief, I'm glad we're out of that s...t hole of a country; I never believed in nation-building anyway, and we should have pulled out much much sooner, years ago, and I'm glad that we finally did.

Now, if dozens of Americans end up dying in the chaos, then I'll turn more strongly against Biden and will actually ask for his resignation.

One thing I should say, though. Beware of what you wish for. If Biden resigns we get President Kamala Harris, and I firmly believe that she is worse than Biden.

 

Interesting read that indicates that things are not as bad as they seem:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-afghanistan-kabul-taliban-speech-key-takeaways-192550645.html

 

Biden has proven he is a clueless idiot with zero common sense.
Why does the Taliban have armored Humvees and our attack helicotors?

 

Without giving the Taliban more time. Biden wanted a milestone by delaying it to 9/11 and breaking the agreement.

 

By listening to Biden? You have to be kidding. He wouldn’t take questions and the questions were about what the reporters were hearing about on the ground. It’s worse than you think.

 

Must be why he had the label of dumbest Senator.

 

Biden wanted to look good, and ended up with egg on his face is what happened.
The sheer arrogance is disgusting with how many lives are involved.

 

LMAO! Official Biden shlong puller outer. Full time job.

 

HUH!?! What goes around COMES around...y'all just have to TOUGH it out till there's another Republican administration, Biden can have a single hair out of place and will be strung up by the heels for it....it's how the game is played now, remember?

 

So the Taliban doesn't have our attack helicopters and m249s and everything is hunky dory, huh?

 

Yes Biden is a very well educated man ....... according to him..... and like a good politician he had to lie about it...that is one thing Joe is good at ..... lying.....graduated 76th in a class of 85.

""""I think I probably have a much higher IQ than you do, I suspect," said Biden, pointing at the man. "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship."
"I was the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship. ... The first year in law school I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class and then decided I wanted to stay and went back to law school and in fact ended up in the top half of my class," he continued."""

The truth : Biden attended Syracuse law school on a half-scholarship and graduated near the bottom on his class. Despite claiming that he improved his academic performance over time, the records did not indicate that he did. And finally, he graduated with a dual major in history and political science -- not "three degrees" as he stated.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-hampshire-primary-joe-biden

https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-hampshire-primary-joe-biden
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...oe-biden-lied-about-his-academic-credentials/

Here he is touting that lie.... on video....kind of reminds me of his video bragging he blackmailed Ukraine and implicated Obama... he is a liar and does not know when to shut his mouth....so your claim he is more educated than me .... nope...

 

Just barely....

According to the New York Times, the Syracuse faculty voted to give Biden an "F" grade after he ''used five pages from a published law review article [Comment, Tortious Act as a Basis for Jurisdiction in products Liability Cases, 33 Fordham L. Rev. 671 (1965)] without quotation or attribution'' in his 15-page paper for his legal research and writing course. Biden was permitted to re-take the course the following year, and he "received a grade of 80 in the course, which, he joked today, prevented him from falling even further in his class rank. Mr. Biden, who graduated from the law school in 1968, was 76th in a class of 85." Here is a video clip of the episode:

 

Yikes.

 

Biden lied about his college record.

 

More than the person who has to question the priority list because his politics command him to disagree with everything.
Common sense, while rare and uncommon among some, does not require military rank- only a logical mind.

 

I don't believe Biden is teachable.

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Not my point. He's still a lawyer. He still got through law school even if other students did better than him, in his class. He still passed the Bar exam. My point is, what are YOUR credentials? What's your highest level of education? Because Biden attended graduate school on top of college, and graduated from it. Have you?

My point is, you're saying that Biden + Education don't belong in the same sentence, so to criticize I'd assume your education must be higher than that. So, what is it?

76th in a class of 85 is still better than stopping at high school or college and never attending grad school. Biden is a Juris Doctor. What are you?

I did notice that you dodged the question. So, man up, what's YOUR level of education, that enables you to criticize Biden's?