Afghanistan in Transition with US Departure.

Interesting thought. They are very Machiavellian in the ME.

 

Can't they just go from Turkey thru Bulgaria and then to Greece:

 

Nope. They were immensely helpful to our counterterrorism efforts.

 

UN seems to be stepping in, although they typically rely on armed forced of other countries to enforce (if they enforce at all).

Security Council urges Taliban to provide safe passage out of Afghanistan
https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/08/1098802
The UN Security Council passed a resolution on Monday that calls for the Taliban to facilitate safe passage for people wanting to leave Afghanistan, allow humanitarians to access the country, and uphold human rights, including for women and children.

Thirteen of the 15 ambassadors voted in favour of the resolution, which further demands that Afghanistan not be used as a shelter for terrorism.

Permanent members China and Russia abstained.

 

I was wrong.
MBS has tightened his grip on things and is a much more effective suppressor of terrorist related activities.

 

In fiery speech, Biden defends Afghanistan withdrawal: 'Not extending a forever exit'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru


He made some good points.

The war in Afghanistan is over........as it should be. The "war" on terrorism ....terrorists........is not.


Lest we forget: They don't call Afghanistan the "graveyard of empires " for nothing.

The TAliban have their hands full now. They have to start governing, they need funds they have terrorist groups to deal with . So far there is little evidence of organization or real governing. Photo ops don't do it.

 

MBS is a terrorist himself and naturally dislikes competition.

 

They were very effective from 9/11 onward.

 

Not just from when MBS took charge?

 

Long before.

 

They are, but they're catching them.

It was sabotaged because Tulsi Gabbard has leadership qualities and would have been a true president and duly chosen by the American people, and not a puppet of the establishment. If she won, there would have been no question of her legitimacy by Trump or anyone else.

This idea of diminishing people's qualities when they could be put to good use for our nation and its people, and then attributing qualities where there are none for self serving reasons, freaks me out.




There was a king who wore some clothes
which no one else could see.

It was a tale that somehow bears
a similarity to me.

I cannot walk and cannot talk
I'm stiff as I can be.

With movements strange and mind deranged
and yet so brazenly,

The press will praise and exalt me
for that which none can see.

And give the world a furtive glance,
of modern puppetry.- Jeannette

​

 

I was listening to Alexander Mercouris yesterday, since he's very knowledgeable in foreign policy and he said the world is entering a very dangerous time. London is furious with Biden - even the Guardian which always backed him is blasting him. But they're not furious because of how he handled leaving Afghanistan, but because Biden ended the war.

According to Alexander, the neo cons and neo libs who financially control both houses of Parliament are looking for a new war - which could be with Iran, with Russia in Ukraine, Turkey or even in Syria.

He doesn't think it will be with China over Taiwan because it's too dangerous, and they want something easy, so he's betting on a war in Africa. We'll know where it is when the MSM starts their massive demonizing of some leader Of course this is just his opinion, but he has been accurate in the past.

I don't doubt they're using their captives to pressure Washington for money, and I don't doubt Washington could care less.

 

It's about to work out the same as 2001. Give them a couple years to constitute, and they will be hit us again.

 

There is a world outside of your experience. Afghans risked their lives for some. It's unacceptable that there was no plan to get them out 6 months ago.

 

Logistically, if for no other reason, it would incredibly STOOPID for anyone to tangle seriously with Russia over Ukraine. It's less than 500 miles from Kiev to Moscow... it's more than 5,000 miles from Kiev to Washington D. C., and even a Democrat is capable of absorbing the implications of that. Moreover, it's worth remembering that if things got 'hot' in Ukraine, we wouldn't be playing 'paint-ball' games with a bunch of ragged desert rats out in the deserts of Afghanistan... no. We'd be in 'it' up over our heads, splashing around in Putin's southern 'bathtub' -- the Black Sea.

Condensed, it will be thus:

1. Over the course of the next eight years, the U. S. will be effectively removed from any important participation in the affairs of anything in Asia, including Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan -- by the growing military and economic Sino-Russian alliance.

2. The EU, which already has more and more intertwining economic relationships with both Russia and China, will disengage itself increasingly from overall American influence and become a sort of 'silent-partner' with both those countries. If anyone doubts that, they should examine the DEEP inroads represented already by Chinese business interests in Germany, and, the inevitable dependency that will be created throughout Europe when the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline is fully-activated by the first of next year....

Most depressing, I suppose, to we Americans is that when we step back and look at this whole dismal thing objectively, what we see in actuality is that Russia and China are led by intelligent, experienced, strategic thinkers and planners who project power very efficiently and effectively... and, to oppose them, by contrast, we have 'leaders' the quality of Joe Biden and Kamala-la-la Harris....

 

B T W

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They all have computers that should include
"Kill Switches".

Who do YOU suppose those weapons will be
aimed at? Hindus maybe. China over the treatment
of Uighur people? Your guess, please.


Moi

​

 

Taliban claims victory over last pocket of resistance in northern Afghanistan, cementing control of country

"Panjshir province, long home to anti-Taliban sentiment, was the final sliver of territory not under Taliban control. Guerrillas had clashed with the Taliban for an extended period of time in the mountainous region. Resistance leaders Ahmad Massoud and Amrullah Saleh are safe, a spokesman said.."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...Q.liDF6gsA1rOdWrLc0Hx6-XoWmMpecK2EkT8NVVNPDsc


They control more of Afghanistan now than they did before the invasion. Quite a "victory".

 

You're whitewashing history. The "colonists" didn't make them native move. They were forced to move by the US army after slaughtering them around. And they died all over on them death marches as well they had to do at gun point. It simply was genocidal. And here you are blaming the deaths on the natives themselves.

Also part of the genocidal policy.

Generals William Sherman: “We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women, and children...during an assault, the soldiers can not pause to distinguish between male and female, or even discriminate as to age.". And so Custer, his henchman, went at it. White people at that time simple had a nazi-like kind of train of thought against the native Americans and committed genocide all over the country.

 

Not surprising:

 

All-male, all-Taliban and a designated terrorist: This is the new Afghan government

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru


The "new" old Taliban...

 

Kabul airport is ‘up and running,’ Taliban and Qatar officials say, as a flight is poised to take off with foreign nationals
"Qatar’s envoy to Afghanistan, Mutlaq al-Qahtani, described it as a historic day for Afghanistan and said he expected another Qatar Airways flight to arrive Friday. Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid also said the airport was ready and called for additional international assistance."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...Q.sMjL8-V8LscthdlEif8SaZ_gexPua9FcuGkhphJ2O74

 

Chilling:

 

Russia, China and Iran step warily into the void left by America's Afghan exit


"The United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 in pursuit of what it saw as its ultimate enemy: Al Qaeda. And then it stayed, with its rivals and adversaries taking notes throughout - and now cautiously embracing Afghanistan’s new militant rulers as America leaves a vacuum in its wake."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...=857693951420692326&utm_medium=Email Sailthru



..and into the "graveyard of empires" they go....

 

Taliban: Women can study in gender-segregated universities only while wearing Islamic dress

https://news.sky.com/story/taliban-...ies-only-while-wearing-islamic-dress-12406687


Might be a starting point.

 

8 billion dollars...left to some sand refugees....don't worry,its not 1885.....