Russiagate media critics react to Sussmann indictment: 'Regurgitation' of collusion claims discredit

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Joe knows, Sep 23, 2021.

  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,559
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Doesn't matter.
     
  2. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,149
    Likes Received:
    37,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lmao an excuse for a everything!
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,149
    Likes Received:
    37,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And where did I say it was illegal?
    It’s suspicious when Russia is actively helping THAT campaign, and the campaign mgr is giving them internal campaign data. It’s reason enough alone to investigate
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  4. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,180
    Likes Received:
    14,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hang on to the Trump Campaign loot undies, it's a coming!
     
  5. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Russia Hysteria stories that went belly up.


    1. Donald Trump Jr. Was Offered Advanced Access to the WikiLeaks Email Archive (CNN/MSNBC)
    The morning of December 9, 2017, launched one of the most humiliating spectacles in the history of the U.S. media. With a tone so grave and bombastic that it is impossible to overstate, CNN went on the air and announced a major exclusive: Donald Trump, Jr. was offered by email advanced access to the trove of DNC and Podesta emails published by WikiLeaks – meaning before those emails were made public. Within an hour, MSNBC’s Ken Dilanian, using a tone somehow even more unhinged, purported to have “independently confirmed” this mammoth, blockbuster scoop, which, they said, would have been the smoking gun showing collusion between the Trump campaign and WikiLeaks over the hacked emails (while the YouTube clips have been removed, you can still watch one of the amazing MSNBC videos here).


    2. Robert Mueller Possesses Internal Emails and Witness Interviews Proving Trump Directed Cohen to Lie to Congress (BuzzFeed)

    3. CNN Explicitly Lied About Lanny Davis Being Its Source – For a Story Whose Substance Was Also False: Cohen Would Testify that Trump Knew in Advance About the Trump Tower Meeting (CNN)

    4. Paul Manafort Visited Julian Assange Three Times in the Ecuadorian Embassy and Nobody Noticed (Guardian/Luke Harding)
    On November 27, 2018, the Guardian published a major “bombshell” that Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort had somehow managed to sneak inside one of the world’s most surveilled buildings, the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, and visit Julian Assange on three different occasions. Cable and online commentators exploded.

    My favorite one.
    5. Trump Created a Secret Internet Server to Covertly Communicate with a Russian Bank (Slate)

    6. Russia Attacked U.S. “Diplomats” (i.e. Spies) at the Cuban Embassy Using a Super-Sophisticated Sonic Microwave Weapon (NBC/MSNBC/CIA)
    On September 11, 2017, NBC News and MSNBC spread all over its airwaves a claim from its notorious CIA puppet Ken Dilanian that Russia was behind a series of dastardly attacks on U.S. personnel at the Embassy in Cuba using a sonic or microwave weapon so sophisticated and cunning that Pentagon and CIA scientists had no idea what to make of it.

    7. Trump Aide Anthony Scaramucci is Involved in a Russian Hedge Fund Under Senate Investigation (CNN)

    On June 22, 2017, CNN reported that Trump aide Anthony Scaramucci was involved with the Russian Direct Investment Fund, under Senate investigation. He was not. CNN retracted the story and forced the three reporters who published it to leave the network.

    8. A New, Deranged, Anonymous Group Declares Mainstream Political Sites on the Left and Right to be Russian Propaganda Outlets and WashPost Touts its Report to Claim Massive Kremlin Infiltration of the Internet (WashPost)
    On November 24, 2016, the Washington Post published one of the most inflammatory, sensationalistic stories to date about Russian infiltration into U.S. politics using social media, accusing “more than 200 websites” of being “routine peddlers of Russian propaganda during the election season, with combined audiences of at least 15 million Americans.” It added: “stories planted or promoted by the disinformation campaign [on Facebook] were viewed more than 213 million times.”

    9. Russian Hackers Invaded the U.S. Electricity Grid to Deny Vermonters Heat During the Winter (WashPost)
    On December 30, 2016, the Washington Post reported that “Russian hackers penetrated the U.S. electricity grid through a utility in Vermont,” causing predictable outrage and panic, along with threats from U.S. political leaders. But then they kept diluting the story with editor’s notes – to admit that the malware was found on a laptop not connected to the U.S. electric grid at all – until finally acknowledging, days later, that the whole story was false, since the malware had nothing to do with Russia or with the U.S. electric grid:






     
    RodB likes this.
  6. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    10. RT Hacked Into and Took Over C-SPAN (Fortune)
    On June 12, 2017, Fortune claimed that RT had hacked into and taken over C-SPAN and that C-SPAN “confirmed” it had been hacked. The whole story was false:

    11. There may not have been Russian bounties on US troops in Afghanistan after all
    U.S. intelligence agencies aren’t particularly confident that Russia offered money to the Taliban for the killing of U.S. troops deployed to Afghanistan, a story that rocked the military and intelligence communities last summer.
    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...unties-on-us-troops-in-afghanistan-after-all/


    12. It is entirely fitting that the Alfa Bank rumor will be the final bookend of the Russia probe
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...lfa-bank-rumor-be-final-bookend-russia-probe/
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2021
    RodB likes this.
  7. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh yeah, the same company Crowstrike that testified in front of congress , and said one thing while saying another thing on MethNBC about the DNC hack, was also behind this Nothing Burger Russian Alpha Bank nonsense.

    Just saying.
     
  8. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  9. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  10. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The super secret Prague meeting was one of my favorites, because morons were talking were taking about Cell Phone signals. I guess it’s to much to think about the fact that your Passport is scanned when you go thru customs, oh yeah what about flight manifests. :rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2021
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Whatever floats your conspiracy boat.
     
  12. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Bombshell Bombshell Bombshell, the walls are closing in this time for real.
     
  13. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    10,295
    Likes Received:
    13,170
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    My favorite was when Rachel Maddow got hold of Trump's(illegally-obtained) 2005 tax returns, and the MSNBC morons were so excited that they never even bothered to look at them. They just assumed they were damning because The Orange Man is bad! and Rachel went on national TV and made a complete ass of herself.

    Nitwit went and showed the world that Trump had paid far more than his fair share of taxes than both Obama and Bernie Sanders had.

    Wow, that was an epic failboat for the ages.

    The she furthered beclowned herserself by doing a Pee Wee Herman crashing his bike thing-

    Rachel Maddow Blames Viewers for Trump Tax Return Flop
    https://observer.com › 2017/03 › rachel-maddow-blam...

    Mar 17, 2017 — Rachel Maddow embarrassed herself and MSNBC Tuesday night when she hyped the fact that she “got Trump tax returns,” only to reveal two pages ...

    "I meant to do that."

    Nobody beat the 'Russian collusion!' dead horse harder than Rachel Maddow did.

    And of course she still has a job, because leftists love being lied to.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2021
  14. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,904
    Likes Received:
    11,859
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the only truth printed by NYT is the weather page. 8)
     
  15. Hollyhood

    Hollyhood Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2020
    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    1,731
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Democrats have found nothing on Trump after five years of fishing for any minute violation, and have lied and fabricated every scandal. It took a few months to find evidence that Biden is involved in a major bribery scheme with his son. Biden still owns shares in the Chinese investment firm.
     
  16. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,559
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Only if one is a paranoid Trump hater.
     
  17. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,149
    Likes Received:
    37,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So a campaign being helped by Russia and in contact with Russia, isn’t suspicious? Lol
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  18. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2021
    Messages:
    18,180
    Likes Received:
    14,569
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This depends on who's side the Russians were in favor of. Come on now!
     
  19. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the Hilary Clinton Campaign wasn’t helped by the Russians when they sent their foreign spook
    To get dirt on Trump from a Russian intel sources?
    Odd how that works.
     
    mngam and RodB like this.
  20. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,149
    Likes Received:
    37,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did they hack anyone for her? Did they steal identities for fake Facebook posts?
     
  21. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nice goal post moving.
     
    RodB likes this.
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When you now have evidence that the actual collusion was from the Hillary campaign I don't understand how you can cling so tightly to a lie.
     
  23. Flynn from Az

    Flynn from Az Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2021
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    1,022
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  24. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,559
    Likes Received:
    11,225
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes it can be. For instance I think the help and contact Hillary's campaign got from the Russians is prima facie highly suspicious and deserves a thorough investigation -- although it will never happen.
     
  25. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    110,149
    Likes Received:
    37,881
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yet you make excuses for the trump DOJ failing to conduct one lol
     

Share This Page