Don Jr& Fox Stars begged Meadows to tell Trump to stop riot

The Trump campaign investigation and the Jan. 6 investigation are examples of hyper partisan investigations based on lies, innuendo and gossip.

 

No, they are based on the fact that Trump stoked an insurrection. Glad to see the insurrectionists finally getting jail time. **** em all

 

Did Trump supporters not breach the US capitol on Jan 6th or was that camera trickery?

 

This is the essense of Utilitarianism - a justification for law which looks only at what will increase happiness/ reduce harm for the collective - with no regard for rights of the individual .. and on this basis is an anathema to the founding principles - Constitutional Republic - as it allows for an end run around the safeguards put in place to protect essential liberty.

The second problem is who gets to decide .. one mans poison is another mans pleasure.

The third problem is fallacious utilitarianism .. arguments which are not even good utilitarian arguments .. not in best interest of collective.

You see .. it all sounds so good on the surface -- which is what makes it so insidious. How often have we heard things like "If it saves one life" "Reduces harm"

OK .. lets go with that .. law made on the basis of "If it saves one life" .. should we not ban skiing tomorrow ? Would we not save a life or two ? WHY NOT ?????? "DONT YOU WANT TO SAVE LIVES" ??? you know the drill.

how about boating .. that is really dangerous .. one could drown .. driving a car ?? what are you thinking .. one of the most dangerous of activities. .. Fact is .. one should probably not rise from bed in the morning .. as one might fall and break neck.

In a free society the individual has the right to risk a reasonable amount of harm to themselves .. Cave diving is still legal is it not ?

Red is not immune to this disease I am afraid .. The risk of harm from a terrorist attack to a US citizen is 400 times less than the risk of harm from "Walking" .. you heard correct.. Yet .. because this risk of harm is so scary .. it is now our "Patriotic Duty" to trade liberty for security .. aka "Patriot Act" .. The Drug war .. or rather The POT war.. same thing .. fallacious utilitarianism on Steroids .. Pot is as Dangerous as Heroin don't you know ?! All kinds of nasty intrusions on this basis .. Banking first and foremost .. under the guise of "money laundering" . Asset forfeiture .. violating the rule of law .. punishing one person for the actions of another.. arbitrafy search and seizure .. and the list goes on.

You have to undestand the monster you are fighting .. and the name of that monster is Utilitarianism ..

 

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"The Court’s Decision ........."

 

Because I care about facts? Weird assumption, but believe whatever you want. I'm absolutely certain, based on our conversation, that you don't care about elections and you are completely fine with Republicans trying to steal them. If Harris tries to pull the same thing that Trump pressured Pence to do, you'll be screaming for heads to roll.

 

Pleased to meet you, your highness.

 

That's not what is being investigated is it. Those persons who violated the law are being prosecuted what does Congress need to investigate other than the actions internally?

 

Please, please at least try reading the Eastman memo. You are completely incorrect.

 

Did Shadowx state support for the legal argument Trump's adviser proposed?

 

Why are you changing the subject to Shadowx? He's busy dancing making several million people spin in their graves with fake Nazi comparisons.

 

Yes lawyers site the law and previous court cases in their filings and I have also cited the same which seem to have you stumped and unable to refute. What is damning about the text IN FULL CONTEXT and not in the fallacious postings by Schiff and others? Where does any text discuss organizing a conspiracy to overthrow the government by violence?

 

You are looking for any angle again? What being investigated is who and what , if anything or anyone, was behind the scenes trying to organize the sedition attempt which, thank goodness, failed. They are investigating if Trump was involved and who else was pulling levers behind the scene.

 

Nothing fake about it. Faux outrage over a racial group (whiteys are evil) resulting in passing discriminatory laws, segregation, attempting to remove that groups ability to defend itself and ultimately culminating in ethnic cleansing.

Fortunately for us we are not stupid enough to give you our guns.

 

You say "nothing fake about it," then you post nothing but fake news. "White genocide" isn't real. In fact, THIS sort of narrative is much more akin to the Nazi propaganda of the era.

 

Nahh, that's your characterization and the strawman reach, pitiful grasp to be specific. You are merely quoting Trump's lawyers wish list which is very likely to be tossed due to lack of merit when trump and his lawyers lose the case. Let's wait (since no court has ruled in favor of Trump here) and see instead of making up stuff to suit the DISinformation being posted as court gospel.

 

I beg to differ.

Genocide doesn’t just happen overnight. You have to gradually brainwash your people that the racial group you’re referring to is subhuman so that it makes the genocide more palatable for the masses.

That’s exactly the process the left is currently engaged in with Intersectionality, CRT, white fragility and white privilege. They’re attempting to dehumanize the white population and make them into an aggregate so that the individual is no longer considered and they’re just “evil white racists”.

 

None of those things have anything to do with whites being subhuman in any way. Again, the narrative you are spouting here has far more in common with the narrative of the Nazis than that of the people you are criticizing.

 

Your refusal to discuss what I actually posted, the legal cases and cites, noted and why wait I cited a COURT DECISION.

As I have cited Congressional subpoenas must be for LEGISLATIVE purposes.

"....may wonder whether Congress had authority to issue that subpoena. Yesterday, the United States Supreme Court shed light on that question in its decision in Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP, Nos. 19-715 & 19-760.

The Court’s Decision After describing the history of how subpoena-based disputes between Congress and various presidents have been resolved, the Court discussed the basis for—and limits to—Congress’s subpoena power. Specifically, the Court affirmed that Congress’s subpoena power cannot be used for law enforcement purposes. In other words, Congress cannot use its subpoena authority to put someone on trial for a crime or wrongdoing, nor does Congress have the “power to expose for the sake of exposure.” Slip Op. at 12. Indeed, the Court confirmed that congressional investigations used solely to “punish” those investigated would be “indefensible.” Not only that, the Court reinforced the limitations to the subpoena power, including that the subpoena must serve a “valid legislative purpose,” and is proper only if it is “related to, and in furtherance of, a legitimate task of Congress.” Slip Op. at 11. In addition, the Court reaffirmed that those subject to a congressional subpoena have both constitutional and common law privileges—including attorney-client privilege—against the subpoena."
https://jenner.com/system/assets/pu...s_Congressional_Subpoena_Power.pdf?1594417043

I got the law and I got precedent what do you have other that partisan wishful thinking?

 

Every court decision so far? The courts sure seem to think they have a legislative purpose.

 

Seriously? That BS strawman again when your post is being exposed as a lawyer's BS wish list. Has the judge ruled in the case or are you just hopeful that the only thing you CHOOSE to cite is the defenses' wish list case? Have you read the prosecutions case and has any judge ruled in Trump's favor regarding these issues yet?

 

Mazars was decided, and it affirmed exactly what that link stated. Congress must have a valid legislative purpose, though I disagree with the Court that then-President Trump's legal idea was "too demanding". They forget that the amendments were put into place, specifically to make demands of the government. If it weren't for those, the constitution would not have been ratified whether in '76 or '87.


The framers believed that for government's powers and rights, a heavy burden must be met. Undercutting or getting rid of those burdens, does not serve the government and most importantly doesn't serve the people.

 

It serves the American people to know what went on behind the scenes and in the WH regarding the lead up, the day of and the aftermath of Jan 6th 2020.

 

Yep! President Trump is a STABLE GENIUS! First he organized a rally and said::
"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore,"
"Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated."
"Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them."
"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.".

Trump knows that his supporters are gullible idiots and he know what they will do, but he is smart - he adds :we will walk "peacefully and patriotically", so no one can accuse him for inciting mob to violence. He lets gullible idiots to break into the Capitol, but he himself if smart enough not to go with them. He waits 3 hours before telling the idiots to go home adding: "We love you, you are very special", but he will not spend a penny to help them financially to hire a lawyer.
GENIUS!

 

Well it's a good thing we already knew that prior to the committee's assembly, so I suppose now would be a good time to stop wasting American taxpayer dollars?