Trump has claimed 5,000 dead people voted in Georgia. He was off by 4,996

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  1. ShadowX

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    You don’t even understand the argument I’m making.

    The only way to identify fraudulent ballots that were introduced into the count AFTER the legitimate ones were separated from the envelopes is to do a FULL signature verification audit of at least one full county.

    If fraudulent ballots were introduced into the count, you will not have as many envelopes with unique signatures that match the voting records as you do mail in votes.

    But the ONLY way you can know is with a full signature verification audit of one full county. Which has not been done because the democrats refuse to allow it.
     
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    People don’t usually apologize when things are STOLEN from them.
     
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    For the love of god I’ll ask you again. If you know of a way to identify fraudulent ballots introduced into the count other than a signature verification audit then PLEASE tell me what it is.

    If you can’t, then HOW do you expect us to get the evidence when the ONLY method to find said evidence is being obstructed by your party?
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should trust the Trump voting republicans who were in charge of investigating the so called fraud. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to trust republicans, but, I can’t help you with that.
     
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    The state government took boxes of “randomized” envelopes provided to them BY the democrat board in Cobb county and said that was good enough for them.

    That’s tantamount to a group of democrats demanding that Donald Trump give them a randomized sampling of his financial records and once he provides that “randomized” sampling and there is no fraud or anything... those democrats saying well that’s good enough for us that must mean the rest of his financials are clean as well.

    Wouldn’t that make you call into question their honesty as well? Because it sure as **** did me.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol
     
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    Trusting the people someone is accusing of cheating to provide you with truthful and accurate information is the epitome of corruption.
     
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    I’ve given you one. Compare the number of people who voted with the number of votes. You can identify the number of voters by checking the names of the people who voted. Compare that with the number of votes.
     
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    Every election has a small degree of error and fraud. That degree usually equates to a fraction of a percent. Some cases are unavoidable, such as, a person mails in their vote and passes away before the election but their now invalid vote is not caught until way after the election is held, if it is ever caught. Every state that is in contention with the 2020 vote (Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona) are Republican run states and they each originally certified the 2020 election as being bonafide, with the the AG stating that this was the most safe and accurate election ever held. Then came the "Big Lie" and the "Big Steal" and everything they had previously said fell by the wayside along with their reputation. History is not going to be kind to this period of American drama.
     
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    Bingo! You showed another example of the difference between Democrats and Republicans.
    In democracy any disagreements are solved in free courts, and this is the reason Democrats used the LEGAL way - the used courts.
    In dictatorship or in communism disagreements are solved by force or in corrupted courts. The disagreement about the 2020 election results Republicans tried to solve in courts - more than 50 times they tried and more then 50 times they lost, so they broke into the Capitol singing 'hang Mike Pence'. According to President Trump is was 'common sense':
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ting-hang-mike-pence-common-sense/8594353002/

    I support democracy, I oppose communism and dictatorship, so this is the reason I will not vote for Republicans.
    You have a right to oppose democracy, you have a right to think that breaking into the Capitol singing 'hang Mike Pence' was a 'common sense' and you can vote Republicans.
     
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    Something every Democrat needs to accept is the Trump is still here. He owns the republican party, no GOP senator dare defy him.
    He sits like a king in Mar-A-Lago awaiting his coronation.
    Trump will almost certainly stand at the next election, so are you ready to face the indestructible man.
     
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    The only attempted theft was by Trump and his minions.
     
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    The # of people voted is a number which originates from the COUNT. If fraudulent ballots were introduced into the count then the “total number voted” will reflect those fraudulent ballots in the number. That does nothing.
     
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    I didn’t say they weren’t involved. However the ballots and envelopes were in control of the democrat board which “cooperated” with state officials by providing them the “randomized” sample.

    But a randomized sample doesn’t address the type of fraud we are discussing.
     
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    If your party is obstructing the ONLY method through which to find the evidence then on WHAT grounds can you assert the evidence doesn’t exist? It’s not that the evidence may not exist, it’s that your party refuses to allow us to look for it.

    Btw Trump didn’t lose 50 times in court. Please educate yourself.
     
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    So you're saying thousands of ballots without envelopes were introduced into the country without anyone noticing? That's a stretch. I mean if you were cheating, why wouldn't you put them in envelopes to begin with?

    Arizona looked for bamboo fibers in these ballots and found none that were faked.
     
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    The number is based on the names of the people who voted. There’s a list of registered voters. When they vote it is recorded.
    The number of votes will be equal to the number of names who are checked off the list as having voted.

    How do you introduce tens of thousands of fraudulent votes? The numbers won’t be equal.
     
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    Because attempting to create thousands of envelopes with uniquely identifiable information would be next to impossible to accomplish. But there’s no need to do that when you can just introduce fraudulent ballots that are identical to the legitimate ones into the count after the legitimate ones have been separated from their envelopes. At that point all you need to do is obstruct a signature verification audit and nobody can ever prove you cheated.
     
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    Biden DID receive more vote than anyone in history. Period!

    ^Anybody who doesn't believe that FACT, might as well be wasting keystrokes and bandwidth making fantasy posts with the Bigfoot Worshippers in the Conspiracy Section.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/bigfoot-paranormal-or-normal-or-non-existent.386822/

     
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    That is some next-level circular bullshit... 1584414799.4932-smiley (1).gif

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    That’s incorrect. They don’t determine the “total voted” from the envelopes. Why? Because just because you sent in an envelope doesn’t mean your vote was valid. Maybe you voted twice, maybe your ballot needed to be cured and you never did it. Etc etc.

    So when they use “total voted” that number comes from the COUNT of the ballots. That COUNT would include fraudulent ballots if they were included.

    Now how did they do it without raising suspicion? They introduced “mail in voting supercenters” where mail in votes for MULTIPLE districts are counted.

    So as an example. Let’s assume we have 10 districts in a supercenter. There’s a total of 1,000,000 votes from these 10 districts which could possibly be cast. Now 9 of these districts are on the smaller side and makeup 500,000 of the possible 1,000,000 eligible voters. 1 of these districts is a massive democrat controlled district with 500,000 possible votes to be cast.

    The democrats know that they’re not going to get enough votes and estimate that approximately 600,000 people will vote in total. 200,000 from the smaller districts and 400,000 from the big democrat district. This leaves 400,000 possible votes still out there.

    Now what did the democrats do? They flooded the giant district with 200,000 more fraudulent votes sent to the mail in supercenter. Which puts them 100,000 votes over what they could possibly have from that one district.

    But it is IMPOSSIBLE to know that those extra 200,000 votes came from the large democrat district because those fraudulent ballots were introduced into the same mail in supercenter that those 9 other districts also sent their legitimate ballots to.

    Now this is obviously a simplified example and they include many more than 10 districts per mail in supercenter so it’s even easier to hide the fraudulent numbers. That’s why you can’t find the overvoting.
     
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    That’s a whole lot of conspiracy theory, speculation and flat out falsehoods.

    For every precinct there’s a list of registered voters. When someone votes, their name gets checked off the list. To make sure they don’t vote twice.

    You can count those names against the number of ballots cast / counted. They will be the same.

    That’s one super easy way to ensure that fraudulent ballots are not introduced. Do you think Republican poll observers failed to check that basic fact?
     
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    But you’re talking about databases that are WHOLLY controlled by the board of elections in which the VAST majority in large democrat controlled districts are democrat.

    Let’s assume this were the republicans we were talking about for a minute and you felt as though they cheated and introduced fraudulent ballots into their count in large Republican districts. Would you simply take their word that their database they’re providing you, that they have COMPLETE control of, is accurate?

    Or would you want to check the envelopes yourself? And make sure that the information they’re providing you is true? And when you tried to check for yourself the Republicans said nope we aren’t going to allow you and if you continue to try we will sue you to stop you. Would that make you more or less suspicious?
     
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