The Mainstream Media Is Losing The Fight Of Its Life...All Thanks To Joe Rogan

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  1. notme

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    Yeah... that Malone guy is getting to be quiet the popular nutcase. He claims he invented the mRNA. But he didn't. Yes he worked on it, yes he did something with it on vaccines and mRNA. But the bulk of the credits go to his supervisor who got the patent on his name, where Malone is just mentioned along with the other people in the team. This happened in the 1980's,.. and that's all he got going on. The actual first mRNA anti-virus trials was held 25 years later... that's 25 years of research Malone wasn't part of. The pfizer vaccine was supervised by a person who did the mRNA research against the aids virus.

    So in the end, Malone isn't clueless. But he has been surpassed by other people decades ago. Those people are the experts. It's like thinking a person who invented a type of computerchip in the 1980's with nothing really else on his resume is on par with the current experts. That's obvious just not the case.
     
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    Indeed. And you're free to make your own forum with different terms and agreements.
     
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    When somebody thinks that taking some random supplements to boost the immune system... and so claims "I am sixty two with a pretty good immune system" ... such people basically mean they can just beat the virus by taking those supplements. AIDS is also a virus, and having your immune system working on peak conditions is no shield against a possible infection from that virus. Covid has killed the strongest and most healthiest people... like Frederic Sinistra, 3 time world champion in kickboxing... age 41. So having immune systems working exceptionally well, is no guarantee.
     
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    ~ Mainstream network "news" :fear: media has been steadily going down the toilet since year 2 of the Donald Trump presidency. They likely have hit bottom already and are financed by big donations from social media giants , Amazon, Bill Gates and the likes of George Sorrows, Carlos Slim etc.
     
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    There are no guarantees in life except death so that's not relevant.

    Why is your opinion about the value of <whatever you are saying should be devalued> more important than @DennisTate's opinion?

    Why is your opinion about the probability of @DennisTate's immune system being unable to protect him any more valuable than his opinion that it will?

    Would you be amenable to someone telling you that you are being <whatever negative adjectives you want to add here> simply because they disagree with your position?

    And, what information are you using to determine and differentiate the efficacy of the vaccines versus <all other options for avoiding and/or beating COVID> that makes you resolute in your position?
     
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    It's, uh, kind of hard to lose a fight that isn't even occurring.
     
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    Lol.. funny stuff. During a previous surge The Economist said:

    "At the best of times India has a weak system for reporting deaths. Around 10m Indians die every year, but national statistics for “all-cause mortality”, the obvious baseline for calculating the impact of an epidemic, tend to be issued only after a two-year delay. In normal times one in seven deaths is never registered, and of those that are, just 22% cite a cause certified by a doctor. There are also huge differences in reporting. A few states, such as Kerala, keep accurate records, but most do not.

    The pandemic has complicated things further. In most states, deaths are not attributed to covid-19 without a recent positive test result. But testing, especially outside big cities, is not widespread. Even with more than 1.5m Indians now getting tested each day, the rate of testing relative to population is still less than a tenth of that in Britain, for example. And because of the surge in cases, labs even in Delhi, India’s capital, are overwhelmed."

    https://www.economist.com/the-econo...istics-understating-covid-19-cases-and-deaths

    So that's why one should not trust Indian data on covid.
     
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    You don't. I do listen to his podcast, but take nothing at face value. Get the perspective of a wide variety of people, look into the claims they make, and use reason as your guide.

    Half the reason we're in the mess we are is people uncritically ally themselves with this source or that, and base their views on reputation rather than looking into the claims made independently. You know, yourself.

    He's had some valuable guests on. At the very least, know thy enemy. He who does not know the other side's opinion has no foundation for his own view at all, and will find it very difficult to reach out to those people.
     
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    What Obama said applies to Twitter -- "You didn't build that." Twitter can and should be regulated for the public good like any other business.
     
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    The great-great-great grandchildren of these libs will still be focused on Trump. The world will pass them by and they will still be whining and crying about Trump. These libs add a new dimension to the word "obsession". They can't admit he's gone. They think he's still President. Its simply amazing.
     
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    Absolutely brilliant post. This is the difference between an Einstein mind and a monkey brain.

    The scary times come when there is no alternate perspective. Beware of those days... Let's hope us hairless apes wise up first.
     
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    ~ Even more alarming is the thought of Trump returning to politics ... :worry: :rant: :omfg:'
    This could necessitate an entire new branch of psychology ...
     
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    There are still ways to increase your probability of not dying early. And having a good immune system, is still not a up there with getting vaxxed.

    Because that opinion of his, founded on the opinion of this Malone, isn't peer reviewed and so it's not scientific.
     
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    You still don't seem to understand the legal distinctions here. This isn't a question of what free speech is. It's a question about the governance of the public square. There are legal consequences for speech in the public square, but at the same time, the public square must be open to all, The purpose of section 230 was to establish this as a community square in the digital realm. TOSs being arbitrarily applied, demonstrably attacking one point of view doesn't support the concept of a town square. I seriously don't understand the left these days. It seems in your rush to squelch any competing speech, you're invested in this notion that somehow only your ideological tyranny can exist. When it comes down to it, the power of these platforms will erode the narrative of the nation, and for some reason, you support that.
     
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    Here are a few examples:

    "Ocasio-Cortez has squared off on Twitter against such varied media outlets as the New York Post, The Washington Post, Politico, the Hill newspaper, CBS News, Fox News and Glenn Beck's BlazeTV for statements she deemed offensive, inaccurate or just tone deaf."
    WASHINGTON POST,When it comes to calling out the news media, Ocasio-Cortez has some things in common with Trump, BY Paul Farhi,February 13, 2019.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cedfecb693ac
     
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    The Fake News MSM will also flat out tell lies to advance a political agenda

    "After Davis publicly backtracked from the claims, the New York Post and the Washington Post outed him as their confirming source and published apologies from Davis, a lawyer and communications expert who became well known for his work for Bill Clinton. The original CNN story — broadcast during Chris Cuomo’s prime-time show and written by Jim Sciutto, Marshall Cohen, and Watergate reporting legend Carl Bernstein — said that Davis had “declined to comment.” His involvement in the story, on so-called “background,” has not been previously reported."
    BUZZFEED, Lanny Davis Says He Was A Source For CNN’s Trump Tower Story, Davis, Michael Cohen’s lawyer and spokesperson, said he also regrets lying about his involvement in the story on CNN last week., By Steven Perlberg,
    Last updated on August 27, 2018, at 10:21 p.m. ET.
     
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    Find the loot and all questions will be answered.

    “Shortly after the World Health Organization declared Covid-19 a global pandemic on March 11, 2020, markets collapsed and economies around the world plunged into recession.”

    “One year later, things couldn’t be more different: a record 493 new billionaires joined the list this year, propelled by a red-hot stock market and unprecedented economic stimulus. Among those newcomers are at least 40 new entrants who draw their fortunes from companies involved in fighting Covid-19. Some, such as Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel and BioNTech cofounder Uğur Şahin, have become household names thanks to the vaccines they helped develop. Others got rich making everything from personal protective equipment and diagnostic tests to antibody treatments and software that helps authorities schedule vaccination campaigns, which will be essential in reopening economies and returning to normal life.”
    FORBES, Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19, By Giacomo Tognini, Forbes Staff, BILLIONAIRES 2021, Apr 6, 2021. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/giacom...o-got-rich-fighting-covid-19/?sh=2192c24d17e5
     
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    Trumpmentia? Viking Shamanism?
     
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    Since when is this a public square? Who pays for the bandwidth?.

    Once our private websites become public property I'm going to demand you run my essays on "The Fetus Is A Wart" and "Nancy Pelosi On Mt. Rushmore" in prominent boldface please.
     
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    Can someone please tell me who in HELL Joe Rogan is anyway? Didn't he used to bury people in scorpions or something? He seems to be living proof that ALL you need is a big mouth and the inability to mouth proper English and you too can be a conservative pundit.

    Oh GOD, when I think that conservatism used to have spokespeople like William F. Buckley....I just WEEP sometimes
     
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    It's you who doesn't understand the legal distinction. You have to sign that you comply with the rules of the platform before participating... which is unlike your actual public square.

    You can take that section 230 and apply for a job attempting to get Donald's twitter account back up and running.
     
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    Well, IMO, all conservatives should support the wide dissemination of both of your essays.
    They might even want to subsidize their publication. ;-)
     
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    Since these folks were subsidized by the federal government using the 230 protections. Again, this is well know topography here, and yet so many here are entirely unaware of it. So, SINCE THE BEGINNING, these social platforms were expected to be used like the digital public square. Are you advocating then that because these private websites are "private" that they should also then be liable for their acts as publishers?
     
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    LOL.. so your answer is, you don't actually know, or understand the law. Got it.
     
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    Joe Rogan got a podcast, and got experience with covid since he had it. Kind of it. So what you thought about Joe seems about right.
     

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