US to make more than 40 flights to deliver military aid to Ukraine

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  1. bidjo

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    Thedimon ,zoom_copter66 If you love Ukraine so much, why do you live in the USA? It is convenient to speak for the war while sitting in the United States. Return to Ukraine and fight as much as you want. Why should someone else die for what you want?
     
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    Quite a few members of Russian armed forces were caught in Ukraine over 8 years.
    Just like with MH-17, Russia denies everything, even when the photo of the perp is published along with their documents.
     
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    I do not advocate American troops being put in harms way over Ukraine, if fact, I’d be against sending US combat teams to Ukraine. For all intents and purposes, I’m an American with American views and allegiance to the US.
    In light of the Budapest memorandum and Russian occupation of Crimea, I’m a strong advocate of heavily arming Ukraine and creating military partnerships with their armed forces to exchange experiences, and yes, Ukrainian troops have plenty of real combat experience. I don’t even think Ukraine should be in NATO, well, probably half of the countries that are already members should not be in NATO.
    I do not call for Russian-American war, all I want is to give Ukraine the ability to give Russia a bloody nose if it attempts to take another slice of Ukraine. Other than that, I have no interest in living in Ukraine. Also, just because I emigrated from Ukraine, doesn’t mean I wish ill to Ukrainian people, or for Ukraine to seize to exist.
     
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    If Ukraine wants weapons, let them buy it. The arms market is open to them.
     
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    I have already posted a photo of the BUK from which that rocket flew. it doesn't bother you, because you accept only what is beneficial to you. Because you're ashamed to admit that your vaunted Ukrainian army got ****ed 8 times by ordinary miners. I'll tell you, my friend, how to shoot such videos. There is a Duty Free on the border with the Kharkiv region. Once 2 groups of young people came there - one from Russia, another from Ukraine to buy cheap swill. They took both groups and dragged them to the garage, which stood on the demarcation line. Half an hour later, 2 groups of journalists were standing in this garage. journalists took turns entering this garage. First, some of them shot a report about Ukrainian saboteurs, then others about Russians. Didn't you watch Wag the Dog?
     
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    How do you know it isn't there?

    Prove ..it isn't.?
     
  7. Thedimon

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    Well, this thread is about arming Ukraine and the 9th flight was unloaded yesterday.
    Ukraine did buy first 2 rounds of Javelins.
    After the current threat dissipates (and I do think there is a good chance that it will - Putin will win most by shrugging and pulling troops back after the exercises), I think Ukraine should have a partnership with the US similar to Israel => subsidized loans + heavily discounted military hardware. No American should ever die for Ukraine - Ukrainians should be tasked with their defense. A strong militaristic culture would also limit Ukrainian internal corruption, which is a good thing for Ukraine overall.
     
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    Show some credible first person vids of those "ordinary miners"?.....this should be hilarious.
     
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    Didn't you recently write that there is no war in the Donbass, and all the videos with the shelling of Donetsk were filmed before 2015? ;-)
    what proof is needed if it is known that the Ukrainian army is the strongest on the continent! :)
    :lol:
    This is what Putin said from the very beginning: after the exercises, the troops always return to the base. Now it will be presented as a victory for Ukraine over Russia. Putin was afraid of the sanctions and shamefully fled.
    Let them celebrate the victory on the forums ... after all, these noodles are for their ears. The more important question is, where will Ukraine put all these weapons now? Will it allow it to rot in warehouses, or will it be used against Dobass?
     
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    Ah...yes....a .Ru link....that came up as error at first until loading.


    Savushkina street must be desperate for employees these days....any non fussy slop pail will do?:)
     
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    In my opinion, you just have a very bad Internet - constant errors. :-/
     
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    That’s probably what will happen. But his MSM will exploit it to paint the US and NATO as hysterical.

    I do not know what you are referring to. My argument about shelling of Donetsk comes from the fact that the other side likes to shoot from residential neighborhoods (something I already proved), which is a war crime because it exposes civilians to returning fire. It’s also known that Russian MSM hangs out in those areas and films resulting damage and destruction after returned fire to paint Ukrainian side as the aggressor. In my eyes, videos of war that come out of Russia are not credible because they omit these important facts. It’s called lying by omitting.
     
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  14. Thedimon

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    Many websites are aware of the region where the web request comes from, and they are able to respond differently to each. One of the links you posted about Ukrainian constitution redirected my browser more than 10 times and the result looked like some spam. So, you both can be right, as you can open a link from Russia and see one thing, while we will see something else.
     
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    No..it's not a case of bad internet....more a case of Mafialand zhradniks sending suggested viruses.
     
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    zoom_copter66, not only is your internet bad, but your paranoia is progressing ;-)
     
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    What's progressing is your propaganda....that's one "hypersonic" weapon Mafialand truly has....everything else is entirely debatable.
     
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    10th flight is in.
     
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    Lots interesting goodies.:)
     
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    I just read - 15 arrived. And they had more Javelins.
    Must have been a busy day! :nod:
     
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    Ouch!!....Kremlin won't be happy.:)
     
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    "If Mama an't Happy - Nobody Happy" (c) Gazi
    :)
     
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    Savushkina street, what does it mean?
    if the link is ".ru" does it mean that it is not true?
     
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    25 flights arrived as of today. Looks like the US started to move faster in the last couple of days.
     
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    Most weapons today are very sophisticated and it takes time to learn how to use them. Just sending weapons without instructors and training is like handing a scalpel to a guy on the street and expecting him to be able to perform an appendectomy.
     

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