Putin Orders Troops to Ukraine After Shocking Declaration

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  1. Durandal

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    Russians are being 'barraged with claims of looming Ukrainian attacks' by state media, NBC reporter says

    Grayson Quay, Weekend editor
    Sun, February 20, 2022, 12:57 PM

    Messaging from Russian government sources and state media suggest that an invasion of Ukraine could begin at any moment, NBC News reporter Matthew Bodner said on Meet the Press on Sunday.

    "We're seeing a very harsh increase in rhetoric here," Bodner told host Chuck Todd from Moscow. "Forty-eight hours ago we saw … the switch flipped on Russian state media, and it has been wall to wall — and I cannot emphasize this enough — since that happened, since the announcement of evacuations from [separatist-held eastern Ukraine]."

    The New York Times reported that separatist leaders, claiming an attack by Ukrainian government forces was imminent, announced Friday that women and children should evacuate the areas they control and that all military-age males should register to fight.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/russians-being-barraged-claims-looming-185705348.html

    This news is a little old, but it is important in this context. The notion that Ukrainian attacks are imminent suggests to me that Russia is hoping for just that, that they want the Ukrainians to attack "separatist" and/or actual Russian forces so that they have carte blanche to roll in with everything they've got. Or, alternatively, they may even be planning more false flags. In fact, it's most likely that both contingencies have been planned for at this point. Either they get the "attack" they want from Ukraine's military or they stage another false flag or two in order to give themselves the pretext for further invasion, especially of territory beyond the Donbas.

    I am reminded of a famous monologue in the German film Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes:

    ... wir werden Geschichte inszenieren, wie andere Stücke auf dem Theater. Ich, der Zorn Gottes, werde meine eigene Tochter heiraten und mit ihr die reinste Dynastie gründen, die je die Erde gesehen hat. Zusammen werden wir über diesen ganzen Kontinent herrschen. Wir halten durch. Ich bin der Zorn Gottes. Wer sonst ist mit mir?

    ... we will stage history the way others stage plays in the theater. I, the wrath of God, will marry my own daughter and with her will establish the purest dynasty that the world has ever seen. Together we will rule over this entire continent. We will persevere. I am the wrath of God. Who else is with me?

    Bloodymir is likewise staging history with megolomanic visions of his own greatness and what he can accomplish.
     
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    Putin is literally acting just like Hitler and the Sudetenland.

    But soon it will be half of Ukraine under Putin's heal.
     
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    Minsk is dead....time to send thousands of Russkis back in bags.
     
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    Could be. I'm sure that's what that bloodsucker wants, though, because he will send in everything to capture Kiev and try to retake Ukraine if they do.

    I'm also thinking that he's banking on his own kind of sanctions to soften the western response, especially from us. Oil prices are sure to skyrocket the more this thing escalates, and Bloodymir's timing is notable since we're approaching the midterm elections in a matter of months. Maybe he hopes that this administration will back down over fears of what $7+ gasoline would mean.
     
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    Let him take his time....the more time he wastes the more lethal aid flows into Ukraine....making the cost of further incursion even higher.

    What I'm surprised is how zombified whatever residents there are in DPR. I'm assuming there's sleeper agents everywhere.
     
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    The majority of the population in those regions is probably invaders from the motherland at this point.
     
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    Are there any left in the DPR....last I saw they were stuck in buses on open road....or in Rostov...where "hospitable" Russkis were yelling at them to leave.

    I saw some of his "pre recorded" speech so to speak....looked like he was drugged up to the gills. Maybe snorted up some krokodil before going on that rant.
     
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  8. Durandal

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    I saw a good chunk of it live on Telekanal Zvezda, I think it was. He sure was playing the part of a furious, aggrieved, slightly drunk (by Russian standards) old Sovok well. :lol:
     
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    NATO must endure as long as there are authortarian regimes with powerful military forces and nuclear weapons, sadly. That means that Russia and China will both need a regime change before NATO can ever consider disbanding.

    It's unfortunate, but there we have it. I suppose we should thank Putler for making NATO great again, at least.
     
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    Moldova isn't in NATO.

    It is likely that Putin will invade Moldova as soon as he captures Odessa (if he captures Odessa).


    Reopening the Keystone XL pipeline and letting the Canadians sell tar sands oil to US refineries would keep gas prices from rising above a certain point.
     
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    Dude, the entire world is going to need good luck. This has the potential to turn into the mother of all spam storms.
     
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    My guess is Moldova is looking to change that very quickly.
     
  13. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, drop that GOP propaganda line, will you? Global oil prices will go up and it will have nothing at all to do with the stupid Keystone XL pipeline.
     
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    I'm with this MP:

    Meet the graffiti artist-turned-MP who wants to see Moldova and Romania become one country
    For more than a decade, Romanians have become used to seeing -- emblazoned on buildings or on walls beside busy highways -- three words book-ended by red, yellow and blue: ‘Basarabia e România’.

    ... https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/...to-see-moldova-and-romania-become-one-country

    Romania and Moldova would be stronger together. Poor little Modova is tiny and landlocked as it is now, but they speak a common language with Romania and would certainly be more nationally secure against Russian aggression if they unified. They were driven apart by the Soviets, unfortunately.
     
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    Moldova is Bessarabia....it has no Russian history...other than what mafialand foisted on them....it's old Romanian territory.
     
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    Exactly. The Soviets encouraged Moldovan separation from Romania. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
     
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    That may change....same as this Transnistria....some bull$hit creation by the asiatic freedom.....no one recognizes.....same will be like DPR.

    Great place for drug deals,human trafficking, body organs, and other nefarious schemes.

    Hopefully it gets reintegration back into Moldova....then back into Romania.
     
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    Are Putler's "peacekeepers" still occupying Transnistria? The first step is Russkiy go home!
     
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    Of course....they keep the drug trade flowing....
     
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    Economics are not propaganda. Selling more oil will prevent prices from rising.
     
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    Clearly shows that he's scared of sleepy joe.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Producing more oil. As prices go up, so will US shale production. Biden won't stand in the way of that.
     
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    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    If he wants to dramatically increase production, he'll look to Canadian tar sands oil.
     
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    Canada’s Tar Sands: Destruction So Vast and Deep It Challenges the Existence of Land and People
    Oil companies have replaced Indigenous people’s traditional lands with mines that cover an area bigger than New York City, stripping away boreal forest and wetlands and rerouting waterways.

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    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/21112021/tar-sands-canada-oil/

    Not a good idea.
     
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    If you want to flood the market with a huge amount of oil to keep prices down, I can't think of a more effective way to do it.
     

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