The second amendment whats it mean to you

All of which are lit.

 

Oh so you have been around European industrial sites at night?
Maybe you should write an authorities guide to some of the more interesting ones. Should be a best seller.

 

Well for one thing, my dogs, Catahoulas, would have mangled them pretty bad, but why would I risk my dogs being harmed in the process? Their lives are worth far more than a couple crackheads! Install lights? That is a comment only to be expected from someone who might live in the "concrete jungle"! Sorry Pixie, I love to see the stars at night the way God intended. Only the flatlanders that come up here install floodlights and security cameras. It is sad how they intrude on our way of life only "part time" and try to turn it into their urban way of life. We have our guns and we are prepared for any urban invasion, druggies, or any assault on our liberty.

 

Yes. I have.
They're no different than here is the states - lots of lights.
Because, as you said - people don't see well in the dark - and so industrial sites, where there are people, are lit.
How do you not know this?

 

I have had an incident where a UPS driver who was told not to be on our property drove his truck down our driveway sounding like a home invasion. He had a part time Christmas helper who didn't know the situation run a package into my greenhouse. On his return to the truck, Mosby tore the seat out of his pants and a hunk out of his ass. It went into litigation and UPS wouldn't stand behind their employee however, I understood through mediation that even if you post "warning dogs do not trespass" you can be civilly liable for injuries. It is much easier to shoot someone breaking into your home. Don't want to do it, but it could happen!

 

No reasonable person would believe that owning a gun makes one prone to violence.

We had an Air Force and tanks in Vietnam and the Middle East. How did that work out?

 

Yes there are such school and they are uber expensive like thousands of dollars . Training for 2 years can cost a police department as much as 75,000. And all dog breeds are not suitable for that kind of thing.
No if you sic your dogs on somebody and they are fleeing and bite the person you can be sued just as if you shoot a person who is fleeing you can be arrested and

 

Any reasonable person would say that having access to a gun significantly lowers the cost of doing crime. I mean, how in the world are you going to try to rob a gas station without a weapon? It’s just common sense.

 

All arms require special handling.

 

These are gun death rates. That is not the same thing as murder rate.

 

If it was due to a Federal Amendment wouldn't all 50 states have it in their Constitutions. They don't. Only 44 states have a state level constitutional right to bear arms.

 

Not like explosives. Not really a chance that a gun's going to jump up and kill people. Explosives actually can become volatile just sitting somewhere. That's why they require particular handling that other weapons do not.

 

Do you have some specific justification in mind? I mean I don't understand. The OP posed the question: The Second Amendment, what it means to you. Several people have explained what it means to them and you seem to disagree with them. What does it mean to you? To me it means I may have a firearm and I don't have to justify that to anyone, including you. You may disagree with that.... and you know what... that is your RIGHT.

 

Actually we should be discussing the subject of the OP which is "The Second Amendment, what it means to you".
Keep up there at the back.

 

First off the NRA doesn't make top 20 on the spending list for lobbying groups. If you want to see substantial budgets to influence Congress check out those that do make top 20.

Aren't all lobbying groups supposed to be special interest groups? In 2020 National Association of Realtors makes the list at #1, Pharmaceutical Research & Manufacturers of America came in at #3, Facebook at #6 and Amazon.com at#8. Four of the top ten lobby groups were in medical, medical insurance, and pharmaceuticals.

The arm of the NRA that does the lobbying is fighting for a Constitutional. On that top 20 list of lobbying, on which the NRA does not appear, there appears to be only 3 organizations that might have Constitutional rights in mind when they lobby Congress.

 

Which is precisely what I d

Doesn't matter about money
It depends on influence.

 

Oh stop it.
The home guard was a joke and a famously funny TV programme called Dad's Army is still on TV after many years, poking fun at it.

 

I asked for justification why you think you need one

So far you haven't.
In addition the rest of the developed world doesn't think they need one either.
All your excuses have been roundly been proven wrong.
The idea of your being part of national security is especially funny.
So we are left with guns being a fashion statement designed to impress or an extension of something you may worry you lack.
Its your problem as a society.

 

Richard The Last said: ↑
Actually we should be discussing the subject of the OP which is "The Second Amendment, what it means to you".
Keep up there at the back.

actually you should tell your friend TOG this.
If you can find him in the detritus of this thread as he keeps revisiting a totally off topic subject.

BTW if you want some fun, watch Dad's Army:



So you still think national security is what you are all about?
and don't start in on "it isn't real". My father was in the Home Guard.
It was a joke even back in WW2 when the military across the world had relatively primitive armaments.
You wouldn't get past your garden gate today with your pop guns.

 

How does a lobbyist or lobbying group get influence without money?

 

Well APAIC does it by free trips to Israel and threats that if they don't vote in favour of Israeli interests, the congressmen can kiss goodbye to being voted in again.
Influence is worth its weight in gold.

 

I have known a number of soldiers from the UK and I believe they would take issue with the fact that you think the roll their grandfathers and great-grandfathers took on the home front was a joke. McHale's Navy, Hogan's Heroes, MASH and Gomer Pyle were comedies in the US that poked fun at our military. But they never made fun of or indicated the the military and its personnel were a joke.
Shame on you.

 

Well I did answer the OP at #337: "To me it means I may have a firearm and I don't have to justify that to anyone, including you"

Since you are asking why I think I need a firearm, I will answer. I need one because I like to hunt.

I really don't care what the rest of the developed world thinks.

Not what excuses you refer to that have been proven wrong.

Could you explain why you find it funny that I might be part of national security?

I find it odd that you can't understand there are many reasons for owning firearms. I own several and each for a different reason. I have one handed down through my family which my dad and I would shoot together when I was just a kid. I have another with which to hunt deer. I have one which my dad carried in his work that I keep by the bed in the event someone decides to break in to my home.

Guns are not the problem in our society, our society is the problem. Until we figure out how to stop killing ourselves and each other we will continue to have problems... guns or no guns.

 

Oh stop it. Po face (taken from one of the episodes when discussing those with no sense of humour).
Dad's Army is beloved of the UK from stem to stern.
It satirised stereotypical UK personalities and situations and we still love it.
After over 20 years it is still aired and enjoyed. I still watch it when it is on via internet TV and have seen some episodes three or four times and they are still funny.
However to return to your subject, you would be about as useful as they are portrayed to be.
I have explained why.
This is 2022, not 1938. Armaments have moved on. You would be no threat to anyone.

Speaking of which, I understand that a weapon fired via a location satellite can wipe out a single targeted area from space? Not to mention entire communication systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_weapon etc.