Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    I think that you should pay attention to Canada and the methods of dispersing protests, where demonstrators are trampled on by horses. Or watch how peaceful protests are dispersed in Belgium. Holland or Germany, where dogs are set on demonstrators. By the way, in the USA it is also customary to crush people with horses and set dogs on people. Did you adopt these methods from the Nazis who were given asylum in your countries after the defeat of the Nazis in Germany?
     
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    You need to open your eyes. Russian gas is in great demand in Southeast Asia. For example, the Prime Minister of Pakistan visited Russia yesterday. He really wanted to increase Russian gas supplies.
    But what, for example, will you and your chemical industry do? However, you are certainly ready to endure impoverishment for the sake of Ukrainian fascists. After all, you have a lot in common. Is not it?
     
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    You have no idea! In America, we allow protesters to burn buildings and cars. You don't get any more lenient than that! We call it peaceful protest.
     
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    One of the first things Putin mentioned as a reason to go to war with the Ukranian government was over the treatment of the two eastern breakaway republics by the Ukrainian government.
    What kind of light has been shed on the treatment of said two breakaway republics?? Well, none, actually...There's a saying in America that it was crickets (that there was silence). After Russia invaded Ukraine (it appears Putin is invading the Ukranian government), it's all been about propaganda lies like, for example, the lie that Putin wishes to return the boundaries of Russia to the former boundaries of the USSR.:roll:

    As an inquisitive person, I'm just tired of all the lies told to people. The lies about Covid. The lies about Trump. The omissive lies about the Biden family (which definitely have vested interest in the current government of Ukraine). Not to mention the omissive lies of all the other political elites in America who have vested interests in the current government of Ukraine.

    I want to know the truth. If the US plans on backing the Ukranian government, the US should, at least, investigate the Ukranian government to see if the Ukranian government is worthy of being backed...People like yourself who seem to be closer to the action in Ukraine are accusing the Ukranian government of being fascist, for example. I want to know if this is true. Let the investigations into the Ukranian government begin...Stop with all the propaganda.
     
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    Are you calling Joe Biden 'Bloodymir'? :lol:
     
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    In the US, as we see with the Jan6 prisoners, we hold citizens in the DC Jail for more than a year without charges, in direct violation of the letter and spirit of Habeas Corpus. Yes, the shining city on a hill....
     
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    Really? You have no freedom of speech. All your media are "fake news".
     
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    It seems quite evident Putin wants the Ukranian government and not the country of Ukraine.
     
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    Yes, it's propaganda. Putin doesn't want the country of Ukraine. Putin wants the government of Ukraine.
     
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    I agree. The mainstream media in America are lapdogs to the politically elite...The news which comes from American mainstream media is first approved by the politically elite in America. You could read the third quote in my signature.

    Well, January 6, 2021 rioters are still in jail and still awaiting trial more than a year later in Washington, DC. I guess, Trudeau learned about 'freedom of speech' from American government.:roll: The rolled-eyes emoji at the end of the previous sentence shows I'm being sarcastic and mean that American government doesn't believe in freedom of speech.
     
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    Realize Putin doesn't want the country of Ukraine. Putin wants the current government of Ukraine.
     
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    Just saying, I don't think it would be in the personal best interests of Zelensky to meet with Putin. I'm fairly certain Zelensky knows this. I'm fairly certain Zelensky's offer of a meeting with Putin is more propaganda. I'm just so tired of all the propaganda surrounding Ukraine versus Russia right now.:roll:
     
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    I will fight for Only 2 countries .. Belguim my homeland and Israel the promised land.
    I fill sorry for the Paruskes that Putin is their dictator .. Kick the bastard out.
     
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    New to me :wall:
     
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    I don't know about that. If you want the Government of a country, I think you get the country as well which would be a package deal.
     
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    With all indications from Putin, Putin doesn't want to run the country of Ukraine. Putin wants to run the current Ukranian government out of Ukraine.

    EDIT: Does Putin have a point?? Well, no one is American government has bothered to investigate the Ukranian government.:roll: But that's probably fodder for another thread.
     
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    Could you further explain why you think the Ukranian government is fascist? Unfortunately, we Americans only hear descriptions of Ukranian government in ultra-positive terms.
     
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    I envy you. All your media outlets are American. 70% of Russian media outlets belong to the United States and other Western countries. :)
     
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    No one with a functioning brain is buying that line.
     
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    BLM can tell a lot about the methods of the police against civilians.
     
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    Turkey, overseeing passage to Black Sea, calls Russian invasion 'war'
    Sun, February 27, 2022, 4:10 AM
    ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey called Russia's invasion of Ukraine a "war" on Sunday in a rhetorical shift that could pave the way for the NATO member nation to enact an international pact limiting Russian naval passage to the Black Sea.

    Under the 1936 Montreux Convention, Turkey has control over the Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits that connect the Mediterranean and Black seas and can limit the passage of warships during wartime or if threatened.

    Balancing its Western commitments and close ties to Moscow, Ankara has said the Russian attack is unacceptable but until Sunday had not described the situation as a war.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/turkey-overseeing-passage-black-sea-101059741.html

    :thumbsup: Things are developing rapidly. I :applause: Turkey's acknowledgment of this bloody war of conquest for what it is.
     
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    I am certain that you are wrong. BTW, since you have previously stated you're not from the USA, why are you here meddling in our affairs in the first place? You getting paid by Putin??

    Any wars we have "lost" have been because of politicians not letting the military do their jobs properly. But even then, things turned out OK. S. Korea is a shining example of the strength of capitalism, whereas N. Korea can't even generate enough power to be seen by satellites at night. Vietnam is doing pretty well, too. In Afghanistan, we had the taliban completely contained with only 2,500 soldiers, and hadn't suffered a combat loss in 3 years. But for reasons known only to him, he decided to surrender anyway, when the status quo was easy to continue, and we could have even decided to completely destroy the few remaining remnants of those scumbags, but politicians lack the stomach to actually finish the job properly.
     
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    For example, in Ukraine they officially support (they receive a salary from the government and are integrated into the armed forces of Ukraine) the Azov battalion, which even in the United States is recognized as a terrorist. Also in Ukraine, at the state level (meetings with the president of Ukraine, presence in the parliament of Ukraine ... etc.), 100% of the Ukrainian fascists "Right Sector" support.
    In Ukraine, the birthday of the fascist who fought on the side of Hitler Stepan Bender is recognized as an official holiday. With state funding in Ukraine, films are being made preaching fascism....
    To be honest, I don't know why people in the US are not familiar with this information.
    On May 2, 2014, Ukrainian fascists burned people alive in the Odessa house by the trade union and no one was punished for this. Moreover, all the offenders have been known for a long time.
    In Ukraine, take any field of activity and you will see that this is a fascist state.
    In Ukraine, even in government institutions, you can see a flag with a swastika.

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