Pardon countdown for Hunter Biden crony

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  1. Heartburn

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    If they are both involved in a criminal activity then they are both morally questionable.
     
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    Well, the good news is that Biden is following protocol. So any petition for a Presidential Pardon would have to follow the Office of the Pardon Attorney before it even makes it to Biden's calendar to discuss. If that happens, it would be at the end of his term, no sooner. That can be in 3 years or 7. Pick your poison so to speak.
     
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    Not seeing how any Biden is involved in that Native Americans got conned out of $60 million.
    Not seeing how Biden is going to give a pardon just because his son at one point just happen to work with him.
    It's a guilty by association theme.
     
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    Pardon countdown for Hunter Biden crony

    I'll take that bet.

    A federal appeals court reinstated the fraud conviction of Hunter Biden’s former business partner on Wednesday, reversing a lower court judge who had granted his request for a retrial.

    Hunter Biden was not implicated in the scheme, which defrauded the Oglala Sioux Indian tribe out of the proceeds of bond sales. But the scheme was committed under the auspices of a broader business venture in which Hunter Biden was involved, and the perpetrators invoked his name to bolster their legitimacy, according to testimony and a consultant’s slide presentation presented at trial. A lawyer for Hunter Biden has said his name was invoked without his knowledge and that he cut ties with the perpetrators when he learned of their misconduct.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/08/hunter-biden-business-partner-fraud-428154
     
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  5. Ramjet

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    When does a president announce his pardons before the end of his term? Name one Democrat president who has done that. Biden is stupid, but he's not an imbecile. Okay, I take that back, he's an imbecile. But his nurses won't allow it.
     
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    Actually, without any real facts about Biden pardoning anyone, all you are currently doing is spreading hearsay, which according to the Book of Leviticus is one of those cardinal sins.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    It's not "Democrat" President
    It's "Democratic" President.
    Learn correct US-English.
     
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    They've known each other since college and worked many of the same scandals er deals together.
     
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    See I've wondered about this one. I know it's the Democratic party, but are the members Democrats, or Democratics?
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    They are called Democrats.

    Srsly, this is not difficult to learn
     
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    Then why is a President who is a Democrat, a Democratic president and not a Democrat president?
     
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    Because it is the Democratic Party not the Democrat Party. Thus Democratic President, Democratic Congressional office, Democratic office.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your hypothesis that he will pardon this individual is based on your feelings? Just clarifying
     
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    Looks as if there was some connection to Hunter:

    Hunter Biden was not implicated in the scheme, which defrauded the Oglala Sioux Indian tribe out of the proceeds of bond sales. But the scheme was committed under the auspices of a broader business venture in which Hunter Biden was involved, and the perpetrators invoked his name to bolster their legitimacy, according to testimony and a consultant’s slide presentation presented at trial. A lawyer for Hunter Biden has said his name was invoked without his knowledge and that he cut ties with the perpetrators when he learned of their misconduct.
    Whut?
     
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    I don’t think I can use smaller words. sorry.
     
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    Good
     
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    That may be, but the first step is that his application must get through the Office of the Pardon Attorney, something Trump never relied on. If Trump liked you, he pardoned you, including several convicted military war ciminals I might add.
     
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    Oh please, Clinton and Obama pardoned whoever they wanted, including hardened criminals. Pardon Attorney? That’s a new one.
     
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    Based on what we know about Biden. He’s corrupt and his son is corrupt and Joe will do what it takes to protect him.
     
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    Although there have been controversies of Presidential pardons, the point is that, with the exception of Trump, all with through the Office of Pardon Attorney at the DOJ before being brought to the President for discussion and possibly signature. Contrarty to conservative thinking, Chelsea Manning was not pardoned but commutted. Bush commutted two Border Patrol Agents in their murder of a mexican national by firing over international bounderies, covering up the fact of their involvement, and even lied to investigators. But with Trump, he did not use the Office of the Pardon Attorney. All you had to do is pay Trump, indirectly, and you have a good chance of a pardon.
     
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    Devon Archer was sentenced to a year and a day in federal prison by Judge Ronnie Abrams, appointed by Barack Obama, for his role in a scam that defrauded the Oglala Sioux tribe of nearly $60 million in bonds.

    There is no indication whatever that Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, or any other public figure was in any way complicit with Archer. The crimes for which the aforementioned were indicted, prosecuted, and convicted were entirely disparate matters.
     
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    Trump does not adore Putin. What you conflate (confuse) is Trump's willingness to be fair to Putin. Trump was also fair to Xi and the midget from the hermit kingdom. Trump was also fair to the white supremacist fascists and the ANTIFA fascists at Charlottesville. Trump was also fair to the Floyd rioters and the CHOP rioters in Seattle.

    BTW, do you still believe that Trump loves Putin after knowing about Trump's plan to engage Russia and China in warfare by having the US paint some American planes with Chinese insignias and have the fake Chinese planes attack Russian planes?:roflol:
     
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    "Oh please, Clinton and Obama pardoned whoever they wanted, including hardened criminals. Pardon Attorney? That’s a new one."
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    You aren't basing any of your comments on what you know to be true. You're basing them on what you believe to be true. There's a cavernous distance between the two.


    Key Takeaways
    • Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution grants the President of the United States the power to pardon any person convicted for or accused of federal crimes, except in cases of impeachment.
    • The president may not pardon persons convicted for or accused of violating state or local laws.
    • Through the power of “commutation of sentence,” the president may reduce or completely eliminate the prison sentences being served by persons convicted of federal crimes.
    • While he or she is not required to follow them, recommendations on all applications for presidential pardons must be prepared and submitted to the president by the U.S. Pardon Attorney of the Department of Justice.
    https://www.thoughtco.com/presidential-pardons-legal-guidelines-4070815

    Did Trump follow pardon protocols? Of course not. https://www.lawfareblog.com/trumps-circumvention-justice-department-clemency-process
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-and-pardon-attorney
     
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    President Zelenskyy refused to contrive fake criminal charges against Joe or Hunter Biden, despite being pressured to do so by the withholding of vital military aid. No charges were contrived against either. (In June 2020, former Ukrainian prosecutor general Ruslan Riaboshapka stated that an audit of thousands of old case files he had ordered in October 2019 had found no wrongdoing by Hunter Biden.)

    Unprincipled blatherskites persist in their efforts to smear the President's relative, but have been impotent in their efforts to charge him with any actual crime.
     

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