Pardon countdown for Hunter Biden crony

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    Former Security Chief Massimov Arrested on Treason Charges in Kazakhstan
    A day after being dismissed as head of the KNB, Massimov was arrested. The news sheds additional light on the complex web of politics and violence at play.

    https://thediplomat.com/2022/01/for...ov-arrested-on-treason-charges-in-kazakhstan/

    https://wearechange.org/the-hunter-...ed-for-treason-was-close-friends-with-bidens/

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    Hunter Biden boasted of having "access to the highest level” in China, according to emails of his business contacts
    New emails reveal Hunter Biden asked for $2 million plus 'success fees' to help unfreeze Libyan assets. The emails, obtained by Insider during reporting on an unrelated matter, are not connected to the controversial emails from Hunter Biden's laptop, which his supporters have claimed were distributed as part of a disinformation campaign.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/new...-biden-wanted-2-million-for-libya-deal-2021-9
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    The first email, dated January 28, 2015, was sent from Sam Jauhari, a Democratic donor with businesses in the Persian Gulf, who was helping spearhead the Libya project. It was addressed to Sheikh Mohammed al-Rahbani, another Obama campaign donor involved in the proposal. In the email, Jauhari is frank about what Biden would bring to the table, and what he says Biden wanted in return:...[​IMG]

    The second email, dated February 26, 2016, indicates that the talks with Biden continued into the following year. In it, Jauhari and al-Rahbani receive a report by John Sandweg, a Washington lawyer who had served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement under Obama. Sandweg had reached out to Biden's team about the Libya deal:
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    Modern conservatives do not know what evidence is. They are simply trying to throw as much dung on the wall to see how much of it will stick while praying that if they keep up this misinformation, somehow, it will become true. Typical partisan rants by the uneducated.
     
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    Didn’t say that. But Hunter was involved in influence peddling and who knows what else and how much Archer knows about it.
     
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    Poroshonko was not a business partner of Biden or anyone else. Yes he was charged, however, he is also a Pro Putin ally in Ukraine. He also met with Donald Trump in June of 2017, being fasley accused by the BBC and received an a due apology and reimbursement of his legal fees as well as compensation for defamation of character. If he is being charged with the alleged crimes, let the Ukranian justice system run its full course before we start believing the allegations are true. You know, innocent until proven guilty and all that.

    Biden met with Poroshenko in 2015 or 2016 to discuss United States/EU and the Ukraine cooperative agreements. That policy was supported by both Republicans and Democrats, not to mention our European allies, at that time.

    If you cannot tell the difference between a foreign politician and a foreign businessperson, I would suggest you learn the difference.
     
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    There is no evidence of influence peddling whatsoever by Hunter Biden. Inuendo, allegations, and heresay yes, but not evidence.

    The Biden-Ukrainian conspiracy theory is all smoke, no substance whatsoeve to all allegations they are spewing. Modern conservatives are just jealous of Hunter Biden's success.
     
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    Vice president Joe Biden's crime family both as business and as politician mixed together at the same time is what you need to learn yourself.
     
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    There is no evidence of a crime family. And I can determine for myself based on the evidence out there.

    Again, there is no substantial proof to your claim. It's a conspiracy theory for the uneducated.
     
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    You have no rebuttal... just cheap talk.
     
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    My rebuttal is that you have no evidence. Not even the email meets the standard of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act nor 18 USC 201, bribary of a public official. So, if it does not meet the standards of the crime you are alleging, then you have no crime to begin with. Just partisan BS.
     
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    Wrong.... you have no rebuttal are are just blabbering now...
     
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    Our system of jurisprudence, with its presumption of innocence, requires a that citizen, after sufficient evidence has been developed to charge and prosecute him for a crime, be tried and sentenced. That includes one who is targeted because of a familial relationship to damage a political opponent.

    The alternative - vilifying that America via hyper-partisan propagandistic media and a mob of goons shrieking "Lock her up! Lock her up!" - is not preferable to the current system.
     
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    Credible evidence is required for an indictment. Under our system of jurisprudence, a hyper-partisan feeding frenzy is not a substitute, no matter how fanatical the desire to damage any American's relatives.

    There is no shortage of politically-motivated individuals eager to prosecute if such actual evidence could ever be contrived.

    Of course, beyond the strictures of American law and order, zealots are free to ineffectually screech, "Lock her up! Lock her up!" if that is how they choose to pleasure themselves.
     
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    Folks are arrested and charged if sufficient credible evidence of criminality can be developed or contrived against them.

    The eagerness of prosecutorial zealots or desire to damage any American's relatives does not alter that basic principle of American jurisprudence.
     
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    Good grief, can you help me find any factual errors in the Lawfare article? Or is your purpose just to keep from having to answer the question?

    In your mind what does that prove given...........Donald Trump’s commutation yesterday of Roger Stone’s sentence was his most controversial exercise of the pardon power to date. The Stone commutation fit a pattern: Almost all of the beneficiaries of Trump’s pardons and commutations have had a personal or political connection to the president. This general pattern is well known. But we examined publicly available information to try to get some precise numbers. The result is this chart.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...kWk0LkXoGe_ayf9FV4oHgLAhQ/edit#gid=1909960010
     
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    If that's not what you are saying, then what does the link in the OP have to do with the discussion about Hunter? And what is the evidence of any actual (not just rumored) influence peddling?
     
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