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You severely overestimate the number of Republicans that think 2020 was illegitimate. Lets compare it with the Democrat belief that the 2016 election was illegitimate.

Protests/Riots
2016 - Over 800 large scale protests, many of them turning into riots, involving tens of millions of Democrats.
2020 - One medium size protest with between 30-55,000 in attendance.

Media Coverage
2016 - Every single leftist outlet, minor to major, perpetuated the stolen/illegitimate/collusion/what-have-you election angle for years. Not just covered, but actively perpetuated it as a proponent of the belief.
2020 - A limited number of conservative talk show hosts, as individuals running their own shows, entertained the idea that 2020 was stolen during the period in which election challenges were being made, dropping the matter almost entirely in the following months.

Congressional Response
2016 - The entirety of the Democratic Congress, save for at varied times no more than 3 members, were vocal in statements about 2016 illegitimacy and in action voting for resolutions and investigations and so on.
2020 - Four, afaik, Congresspeople have been persistent outspoken proponents that 2020 was stolen.

Now I'm sure you've been subjected to some fake news polling designed to make you think the majority of Republicans supported 'the big lie' but its just not true and the signs of it are everywhere. The fringe will always be there and there will always be efforts to make them seem greater than they are but if you look with your own eyes you'll see. The TLDR is; for every 1 Republican that believed 2020 was stolen for a few months afterwards there are probably10,000 Democrats who believe 2016 was stolen still to this day.

 

Literally right in the name guy.

And yet take a look around my guy. Southern border saw 2 million invaders in a single year, the fall of Afghanistan and the abandonment of our own citizens not to mention billions in military hardware to murderous Islamists, inflation and fuel prices set new records every week and aren't done yet, housing market collapse in progress. Meanwhile under Trump we saw the best years American has had in our lifetimes. And its funny we're in a thread about censorship due the reason you not knowing these things is because of censorship, haha.

But yea, "Fascism, Authoritarianism, Dictatorships, Racism" indeed.

Branding concerned parents as 'terrorists' because they show up to school board meetings with photos of maskless board members and ask why rules for thee but not for me. Re-writing Congressional rules so that members of minority party cannot be involved in abc/xyz process. Telling companies that if they don't fire employees who cant prove vaccination they'll be fined and shut down. Arresting people who bring bottled water to fully peaceful protestors, and freezing the bank accounts of the fully peaceful protestors themselves. Brainwashing White children to believe they were born racist and brainwashing black children to believe they were born victims.

I always laugh when I see leftists whine about "Fascism, Authoritarianism, Dictatorships, Racism". Leftists embody every one of these things to their fullest extent.

 

FYI, the southern

The southern border has nothing to do with this and everything else you stated

 

Masterfully done, you proved my point. People on the left see 2+ million illegals streaming over our border in a single year, hands extended, ready to take jobs and monies that Americans need, and breed a future generational welfare permanent underclass that will further drag down the average status for all Americans... and they don't think this is a problem. Bravo.

 

This thread is about Russia !!!!

It's your thread !!!

 

Dude. It was. Lol. What alternate world are you living in.

The economy was Rockstar, Americans at huge disposable incomes and low unemployment, was one of the longest peace times, fuel costs were low.

Trading all that not to have mean tweets or a personality the triggered you? Seriously?

 

Conservatives are authoritarian?

Weren't you just one of the ones demanding people wear masks? Demanding vaccinations?

Just simply throwing BS at the wall means nothing.

Good thing most independents are seeing that's all the democrats offer. Agree with then, or you're racist. It's overplayed BS that only makes sense in far left echo chambers. Nobody else is buying the nonsense anymore.

 

WOOSH!

That was the sound of the point flying straight over your head. I quoted, almost verbatim, an attack on “progressives” and turned it around against conservatives.

My point was that if someone makes a completely ridiculous and unsupported attack on one side, it is easy to flip it 180. If one is valid, so is the other. If one isn’t valid, neither is the other.

 

Weren't you just one of the ones demanding people wear masks? Demanding vaccinations?
Trump's admin required people to wear masks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_masks_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States
...
In early April, federal officials reversed their guidance, saying that the general public should wear masks to lessen transmission by themselves, particularly from asymptomatic carriers.

 

We are living in the same world, but one of us is trusting politicians and one of us trusts its own brain.

Why economy was good: Trump reduced tax rate PERMANENT 14% for himself and his wealthy friends but 2-4% TEMPORARY tax cut for American workers, so economy grew as also the US debts which eventually someone will have to pay. Guess who will have to pay?
4 years of Trump presidency was one of the longest peace times? Can you count to more than four? Just to remind you – Trump allow to Iran to shoot down our drown and to wound over 100 US soldiers in missiles attack on Al Asad base. What Trump said after the attack?
"I don’t consider them very serious injuries, relative to other injuries that I’ve seen. No, I do not consider that to be bad injuries."
No doubt Trump is excellent salesman – he sold Kurds to Turks explaining that Kurds did not help us in WWII during Normandy landing.
And what about Trump request to relapse from Afghan prisons 5000 Taliban fighters?

Dude. What alternate world are you living in.

 

I know what you were trying to do, but it didn't make any sense.

Saying that the left supports an authoritarian central government in fact has truth to it. Trying to flip that around doesn't make any sense except for deflection.

 

Have you turned on the news, hell any news in the last year?

Trump cut taxes in 2017. Tax revenue following that:

2017 - 3.32 Trillion

2018 - 3.33 Trillion

2019 - 3.46 Trillion

Where is the loss?

Avoiding new wars. Trump is the first president in decades who did not commit the nation to new overseas military campaigns. He shared with President Obama an aversion to such adventures, but Obama launched an Afghan troop surge (2009), an intervention in Libya (2011), a return of forces to Iraq (2014), and a U.S. military role in the Syrian civil war (2014). Trump preferred to use other instruments such as economic sanctions in dealing with threats—even when they were close to home, as in the case of Venezuela, or a danger to regional peace, as in the case of Iran. He thus bought the U.S. military four years of relative peace in which to rebuild from endless wars.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...sident-trumps-defense-legacy-is-profound/amp/

It would appear that I am living in the world of facts, which are inconvenient to your Trump hatred.

Your just throwing out a bunch of random policy and statement issues you have (ignoring the economic ones we were talking about) in order to attempt to discredit Trump because you can't do it with facts.

Fact. We were in a much better position in 2019 before democrats got control. That's obvious to everybody and reinforced with facts.

 

Not if I can help it!!! He even makes Contract #3 vomit and she is a former lesbian porn model so her standards clearly aren't high from the start. Well, we knew that because she can be within 50 miles of your Lord Orange Jesus.

 

We know

 

There are two ways of looking on politicians actions: wishful thinking and rational thinking.
The numbers you showed proved NOTHINHG. Each year US economy is growing, corporations taxes were cut by 14%, taxes on American workers were cut by 2-4%. So in order to prove Trump tax cut made sense, you have to show that after Trump tax cut (from 201 the tax revenues from corporations were higher than US growth – 14% and the revenues from American workers taxes were greater than regular growths – 2-4%.
Here are some graphs:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FCTAX

Did tax cut reduced unemployment?
From Dec 2010 to Feb 2020 unemployment constantly went down:
https://tinyurl.com/3bdkhstm
with and without Trump tax.

According to a conventional economic theory tax cut make sense if taxes are too high or the economy is in recession – this was not a case in 2017.
As we can guess left and right look on the Trump tax cut differently:

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trumps-corporate-tax-cut-not-trickling/
[...]
Trump’s Corporate Tax Cut Is Not Trickling Down

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Cuts_and_Jobs_Act_of_2017
[...]
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reported that under the Act individuals and pass-through entities like partnerships and S corporations would receive about $1.125 trillion in net benefits (i.e. net tax cuts offset by reduced healthcare subsidies) over 10 years, while corporations would receive around $320 billion in benefits. The CBO estimated that implementing the Act would add an estimated $2.289 trillion to the national debt over ten years,[8] or about $1.891 trillion after taking into account macroeconomic feedback effects, in addition to the $9.8 trillion increase forecast under the current policy baseline and existing $20 trillion national debt.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/23/who-is-saving-the-most-money-from-trumps-tax-cuts.html
[...]
“While the latest saving data aren’t broken down by income, some economists say the recent rise is likely being driven by the wealthy,” the Journal reports, noting that an estimated three-fourths of the increase in savings since the tax cut took effect has benefited the wealthiest 10% of Americans.
Past reports have found that the tax cuts disproportionately helped the richest Americans. Although “individual income taxes as a percentage of personal income fell slightly from 9.6% to 9.2%” between 2017 and 2018, according to a Congressional Research Service report, the rich still benefited more than others.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kotlik...h-get-all-of-trumps-tax-cuts/?sh=140ad3bef209
[...]
Whether the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) disproportionately helped the rich may be 2020’s biggest political issue. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin claims that it benefited most Americans. Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) calls it a massive giveaway to the rich.
Who’s right?
Unfortunately, no one can tell from the TCJA studies done to date. Those studies, produced by government agencies and D.C. think tanks, do conventional fiscal analysis, which, truth be told, has four fatal flaws.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/09/trump-tax-cuts-helped-billionaires-pay-less
[...]
Trump’s tax cuts helped billionaires pay less than the working class for first time
Economists calculate richest 400 families in US paid an average tax rate of 23% while the bottom half of households paid a rate of 24.2%

https://www.policygenius.com/taxes/who-benefited-most-from-the-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/

I think you slept a lot during Trump presidency and didn't noticed:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/politics/military-president-donald-trump/index.html
President Trump expands US military footprint despite candidate Trump’s rhetoric
He has escalated the US war in Afghanistan – signing off on the latest open-ended chapter of the 16-year war – launched US strikes against Syrian government targets for the first time in that country’s civil war and beefed up US military campaigns across two continents. Just as significantly, Trump has kept the wide-reaching elements of US military might around the world – like the US bases in foreign countries whose importance he questioned during the campaign – intact.
[...]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...-not-specifically-order-niger-mission-n814361
Trump Says He Did Not 'Specifically' Order Niger Mission
President Donald Trump said Wednesday he did not "specifically" order the military mission in Niger earlier this month that left four American soldiers dead.
[...]
When asked if he had authorized the mission, Trump said: "No, I didn't. Not specifically."

But I agree – Trump preferred to betrayed our allies, do not respond to Iranians attacked than to start a war, a smart policy practiced also by the Left.

 

You're spinning now.

You said that the tax cuts by Trump would require the middle and lower class to pay for them.

I showed you that not only did federal tax receipts not fall, they increased after that.

Now you are moving the goal posts.

I slept a lot better then than now. That is for certain. Since Biden has taken the helm, shits a wreck.

Moving military and beefing it up does not counter my claim that Trump presided over one of the longest reduced conflict periods in history.

Remember the left prior to the election screaming about Trump going to get us into all kinds of wars? Yeah, never happened.

Moving the goal posts again.

You're desperately grasping at straws to find something negative to detract from the current FUBAR situation.

 

As I know, main reason is that ukranians hides inb residential areas and do not let civilians leave the regions. Therefore, Russia must act carefully, as it wants to minimize civilian casualties.

 

vice versa
Russian people know everything about these events. People can use ukranian and international internet channels, also can use VPN in case of blocks.
Russian people can get information from different sources and compare it.
And the most important: Russians and ukranians always closely communicated, often have relatives on both sides and, therefore, can make an objective assessment.
And Kremlin support it because the real crimes are committed by Ukrainian Nazis and are hushed up by the European and American media.
I can easily prove this: have you been shown that Ukraine is firing rockets with banned cluster munitions at populated areas, killing civilians en masse? What do you know about yesterday's rocket attack on Donetsk?