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Thoughts of an old steelworker.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ray9, Mar 19, 2022.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    And you know he personally benefitted how?
     
    garyd, Mar 20, 2022
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    He didn't change them a dime. He filed a legitimate expense report for reimbursement of cost borne by the hotel for the time they stayed there.
     
    garyd, Mar 20, 2022
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  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am reminded of Jefferson's wise words: "peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations—entangling alliances with none"

    That is the ideal foreign policy.
     
    Steady Pie, Mar 20, 2022
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    cristiansoldier Well-Known Member

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    This may sound like a silly question but why were you burying canned food? Was it due to concerns about WW3. Was it to hide the food in case there was a post apocalyptic world? I didn't realized people were doing this.
     
    cristiansoldier, Mar 20, 2022
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Because they're his business's. It's not just about impropriety, it's about the APPEARANCE of impropriety.
     
    Cybred, Mar 20, 2022
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our corrupt elites gamble with global catastrophe far too frequently for us to keep escaping it forever. I too have supplies stored away for when they finally roll snake eyes.
     
    modernpaladin, Mar 20, 2022
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reason to bury things is to keep other people from getting it. When food runs out and people are starving, they will go door to door taking it from others by force before they will starve to death. This is the reason to hide stored resources. Its also the reason to be well stocked with ammo.

    Its also important to remember that after they can't find food, a large portion of the population will resort to cannibalism before they will starve to death.
     
    modernpaladin, Mar 20, 2022
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  8. Ray9

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    They cancel you; they cancel me; they cancel anyone that does not toe the line of their thinking. Now they think they can cancel Putin. Surely the people of Russia will see that their thinking is superior, and Putin will be cancelled by his own people, right? They keep saying that on our "free" media. We know our media must be free because anyone saying it is not, is cancelled and we never hear them. It is unanimous then that only "approved" speech is free. Putin will never launch nuclear missiles because even he can see the superiority of America's new brand of "free speech". It is settled then-no nuclear war. Nothing to see here folks, move along, right? Putin has apparently met his match and the only people paying the price are far away in Ukraine. All the people supporting America's latest rendition of free speech can sleep soundly, right?
     
    Ray9, Mar 20, 2022
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump charged them rent, and the tax payers picked up the bill
     
    FreshAir, Mar 20, 2022
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  10. RodB

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    The secret service rents golf carts if they are necessary for protection for every president.
     
    RodB, Mar 20, 2022
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, Trump rented his own golf carts to the secret server so they could protect him
     
    FreshAir, Mar 20, 2022
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  12. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure that every former President is costing taxpayers about a million each per year.
     
    Injeun, Mar 20, 2022
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  13. RodB

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    So? My point was no other president ever subsidized the secret service for their protection expenses.
     
    RodB, Mar 20, 2022
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  15. FreshAir

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    yes, but most are not charging the secrete service rent and renting them golf carts
     
    FreshAir, Mar 20, 2022
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if Biden bought a golf course and stayed there all the time, charging the tax payers millions, I think the right would see how wrong that was
     
    FreshAir, Mar 20, 2022
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty sure he is the only one who profits from it personally.
     
    Pro_Line_FL, Mar 20, 2022
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, I wouldn't. Who paid the secret service expenses when, say, Bush43 stayed on his farm or LBJ stayed at his ranch? Hell's bells, they even built a runway for LBJ.
     
    RodB, Mar 20, 2022
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh hell yes! My dad built a bomb shelter in our basement and stocked it with food.
     
    Seth Bullock, Mar 20, 2022
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    So. It isn't much as it mostly goes to employees, insurance, equipment maintenance, upkeep and so on. It is budgeted to that end, and matters not the vendor. I'm sure that were it cheaper elsewhere, it would be spent there. IMO, our former Presidents are so wealthy, they shouldn't be given anything beyond a flat pension. And let them pay their own security, offices, and so forth.
     
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  21. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    The cost is budgeted and would be spent somewhere. It's my understanding that Trumps business services are very affordable. Which is probably why our government went with them rather than with another.
     
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  22. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well said. :applause:
     
    Seth Bullock, Mar 20, 2022
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    It goes from the taxpayers pockets to Donald Trumps pockets. How he spends it is irrelevant, but the point is that he profits from it.

    They are anything but affordable,

    "Trump cost the Secret Service at least $137,505 for golf cart rentals at his golf clubs in New Jersey and Florida"

    and

    Trump charged US taxpayers $40,000 for Secret Service to use a room at Mar-a-Lago in the months since he left office
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-charged-secret-service-40000-mar-a-lago-post-presidency-2021-5
    • Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort charged the US government at least $40,000 for the use of a room between January 20 and April 30, The Washington Post reported.
    • Trump's Palm Beach resort charged $396 per night, which is almost double the federally mandated maximum rate for most government employees in that county.
     
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  24. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    Every former President profits from every penny we spend on them. In fact, Trumps prices are the best in many instances. So buying thru him rather than another vendor is actually less costly to taxpayers than otherwise.
     
    Injeun, Mar 20, 2022
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Name one former president who personally collects money from the government for his own protection.

    And no, he is NOT cheap, he is very expensive:
    • Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort charged the US government at least $40,000 for the use of a room between January 20 and April 30, The Washington Post reported.
    • Trump's Palm Beach resort charged $396 per night, which is almost double the federally mandated maximum rate for most government employees in that county.
     
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