The crisis in education- how about this?

One could "choose" to interpret that way in this case- but it would take a considerable stretch of reasoning to do so. If Biden meant to say the teachers were caretakers filling in for the parents during school times, that would be reasonable. But excluding the parents and allowing schools to usurp the will of the parents is another- and far too many instances of that are showing up, with the left consistently suporting it, not condemning it. The pattern is clear, not questionable to a reasonable person.

If you fail to recognize that parental right, it becomes crystal clear you don't want it to exist- and the actions of the left demonstrate a consistent pattern of efforts to take parental authority from parents.
Biden no longer counts as the person calling the shots; it's obvious that his mental state allows him to be the puppet for the people in the background pulling the strings. But being the puppet, holding the office- requires he be held accountable for what he says, even if he can't remember what he said or why he said it. And of course- those who tell him what to say and those who support that kind of deception are also fully accountable for what they do.

Part of that is exactly what you are doing here- taking a point of contention, ignoring and denying the indications that it is outrageous, offensive and a blatant invasion of parental rights- and promoting the perception that it does not mean what it obviously means, that it might be rational. You're dodging the sum total, the obvious bottom line.

Tolerating outrageous conduct only insures there will be more of it. You stop it when it starts- not after you are buried under it. This crap is straight out of Hitler's playbook.

 

Every school publishes what is taught. Every teacher is available to meet any parent to discuss anything. There are policies in place in public schools that allow taxpayers and parents to challenge what is taught.
This is not taking place in a shroud of darkness covering some vast conspiracy. The information has always been there in the open if one wanted to find it. I do agree with the statement that kids benefit when their parents are involved.

 

The above statement is filled with inaccuracies.

 

That is supposed to be true- but it's no longer true. A woman is suing a school in Florida for approaching her daughter and promoting trans-gendering without her knowledge. A school in DC has introduced a program at the pre-school level (age 4) to teach kids how to identify the racists in their own families. A six year old girl came home and asked her mother if she was born evil because she was born white.
The people who are doing this crap aren't stupid- they know that if they ask parents, if they make this stuff visible, parents will be outraged. Recently a woman was reading from a book at a school board meeting- and shut down because of the offensive language. Then she pointed out the book came from her kids school. Long list of crap like this. IF those school regulators wanted to work with the parents for the best interests of the kids, that would not be happening. And- much of this is not the fault of individual teachers, but of school boards. They select criteria and make rules for the schools they administrate, and the same liberal bull puckey that has defunded police and promoted the horrendous crime wave we are in is attacking the concepts of responsibility in the school system. I know a number of teachers, and their biggest complaints all revolve around administrative misconducts.

IF you must constantly monitor and regulate the people you hire to help educate your children because they are undermining your parenthood, you have hired the wrong people.

Such people don't need supervision and discipline- they need total removal from any position of power in the education system, and as soon as possible.

 

If so- no where near as many as the criticism of it.

 

Thanks for confirming what I said.

 

You couldn't be more wrong.. Parents are hard pressed to even get a e-mail back from teachers now days let alone a face to face visit/interview with one..

Proper channels as they put it

 

There you go again, mirroring to reverse the message....

 

Didn't Terry McAuliffe run on that very idea in Virginia which cost Democrats their governance of Virginia?
Parents have no right to control whats taught in public schools?
If Democrat politicians continue that persona you will see what we all found out in Florida. 55% of Democrats voted for DeSantis bill.

 

If wonder if the OP feels the same way about police and fire departments. I wonder when was the last time he was anywhere near a public school.

 

Parents can teach their children whatever they want, impart whatever values they want, pass along any beliefs or traditions they want.

 

The message needs to be accurate.

You assume that parents have no knowledge and have no input. That is not true. You assume because there are some people that are upset that all are upset. That is not true. You are not supporting parents rights, but parents are not making the decisions state politicians are. This would be a simple thing to deal with if politicians hadn't decided that crisis benefits their image.

I find it ironic that this problem did not exist two years ago under the former administration. I find it ironic that the Govenor of Florida did not discover the problemuntil he began running for President.
I find it ironic that no one in education has been arrested, indicted, or charged. I find it ironic that the state of Florida is removing math texts without explaining what is wrong with the book.
I do not find it ironic that people on the right need to find boogy men to keep their support fired up.

 

The op has children, grandchildren, great grandchildren- and a grand daughter teaching elementary school now, and many years of teaching in other areas himself.
It's not a matter of dictating everything teachers do or micro-managing- it's a matter of teaching having the same objectives as the people hiring them. If you hire someone to mow your grass but come home to find they have painted your house because they didn't like the color you chose, you are a happy camper, right? Same difference here. Teachers aren't hired to indoctrinate children, which is drastically different then educating them. Same is true for police, fire, city officials, congressmen. Represent the best interests of the people - as chosen by the people, for the people.

 

Accurate? It doesn't need to be a universal problem before we identify what's wrong as wrong. Some of what's happening is deeply offensive, and If it happens at all it needs to be addressed. And it is not an isolated incident- it's a great many incidents, and a pattern of indoctrination. The real issue is that school boards are rejecting parental objections and input- literally throwing people who object to their actions out of public meetings, calling parent protestor terrorists. Those people ARE NOT entitled to work against parents or parental interests- just the opposite, and they are claiming they have that right.

Nobody has asked them to do anything but their real job. It's unfortunate and telling that you find that unreasonable

 

All of which does NOT answer any of my simple questions.

 

And when the State uses those powers to remove the children of Progressives? You'll be fine with that too?

 

I'm willing to bet my firstborn that our pal's 'wards of the state' will only extend to his ideological enemies.

 

Don't complain about anything people related then.

 

So your solution is to find everything you don't like or don't agree with, and outlaw it?

What happens when that power transfers to the hands of your enemies?

 

You had no questions other than "Same for police,fire" which were answered. the rest was your opinion.

 

Nope, I'm just saying don't complain about anything people related then.

 

Thanks, but I will.

 

Having children or grandchildren proves nothing about knowing what is going on in public schools you haven't been anywhere near in decades.

 

And we don't want to.

 

Wrong.