California first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    And this (I don’t think) will have any impact on that.
     
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    :roflol::roflol:well said!
     
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    I'm a chemist who's been studying the subject for decades.

    But that doesn't matter, because I didn't say "believe me" - I said, "get yourself informed".

    You don't have to have PhD or a science degree to investigate and understand the subject at least well enough to know that the "scary scenario" narrative is a fraud.

    But, I know you won't. You're too lazy, or too busy, or too whatever to be bothered. It's easier to just be a mindless sheep.
     
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    Yah anyone who doesn’t subscribe to the conspiracy theory of the day is a mindless sheep.
    It would be funny if it wasn’t so played out.
    Heard the same about everything from smog to 911.
    I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that the anti regulation people never believe in anything that requires regulation to solve. zero connection there lol
     
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    I'm still waiting on my leftist talking points. I can't comment or think until I receive them...
     
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    What the hell is wrong with you? What you call the looney left is pretty much all of the climate scientists in the world.
     
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    I didn't know this was a looney bin for nuts. I thought this was a moderated forum. Who the hell moderates this? I don't see it.
     
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    You clearly think anything you disagree with should be removed.....yea, it doesn't work that way.

    You're free to start your own site with your own boards and moderate them how you see fit.
     
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    And unthinking crap like this is why I've had you on ignore for so long ;)

    ciao
     
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    They get paid to write computer programs that produce graphs which look nothing like reality.

    Yet, because the MSM doesn't show you reality, they only show you the conjured and false GIGO computer model results, and you believe the lie.

    Do some of your own research. They're lying to you. Climate change is a trillions of dollars/year fraud - with that kind of money on the line science goes out the window.

    They're enriching themselves, and empowering government to control the global economy and people - yet you see none of it. Amazing.

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    Currently 50% of the electric power in the state is produced from natural gas.

    Now, I think we'll all admit it doesn't make too much sense to be burning natural gas, transforming it into electricity, transmitting that energy across powerlines where there are loses, when you could have just directly burned that natural gas where you needed it?
     
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    Good God people... CO2 is not a pollutant!!!

    Get informed - which means looking at the actual data which refutes the meme.

    WAKE UP!!!
     
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    With any luck Vladimir Putin will save the world from the Nazi bastards that run the Ukrainian and US governments.
     
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    I read that solar panels have an end of life cycle, are non renewable due to the nature of their design, and contain materials that are highly toxic to the environment. So down the road, they will become a major pollution problem. The more we rely on them, the greater the pollution problem.
     
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    The left doesn't care about pollution, they care about power.

    The environment is just a vehicle they use to expand the government's power over society.

    Sadly, most people can't see thru the deception, so they think they are "doing the right thing" by supporting environmental legislation and the politicians that push that agenda.

    In reality, they are doing nothing more than opening the vault doors to crooks and giving political power to charlatans and autocrats.
     
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    Dang that sound like a confession if I've ever heard one..
     
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    :shh: We're not suppose to know these things. :whisper:
     
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    First it was just dirty coal. Now it is any fossil fuel - even the cleanest and least polluting one, natural gas.
     
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    Post MORE!
     
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    So I've looked it up and here are some real numbers.
    Residential NG furnaces are approximately 95% efficient. Older units may be as low as 80% efficient. Assume average is around 88%
    NG electrical generation is about 42% efficient (at the output of the plant). Transmission losses are are 27%. Total loss is around 69%.

    So, California's very smart leaders are going to burn 290% more natural gas by banning natural gas appliances. :)
     
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    Yup they care only for POWER, ByDummy demonstrates it daily
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    Valentine's Day 2021. Shut down the entire state of Texas.

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    So, why is propane good, natural gas bad? Neither should be banned in homes.
     
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    And before that freak freeze? And that was nothing more than poor infrastructure, just like their power grid.. I have lived thru fifty subzero winters, and NOT ONCE have I seen or heard of NG freezing, nor have I ever experienced a single minute of NG disruption :)
     

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