Crimean Kerch Bridge destroyed?

No. Only if he continues with even worse decisions. There are still many ways out for him but continuing war with Ukraine will eventually cost him his life if he doesn't die of natural causes first.

Was Gorbachev killed? Was Yeltsin killed? This idea that Putin has to bomb orphanages to live is silly.

Putin will be completely pushed out of Ukraine. It's only a matter of time.

 

Update from Ukraine | Attack on Kerch Bridge | The supply line still works for Ruzzia

 

Supposedly, they do have an inspection station with equipment to detect the presence of explosives.

 

.....99% of the bridge voted to join the sea......

 

I don't think "expand(ing) the conflict," makes any sense, when his troops are so poorly grappling with holding just the territory on which they've concentrated their forces, after realizing they were too thinly spread, just in Ukraine-- unless you meant to expand the conflict, so that Putin's army redirects its efforts, worldwide, into assaults only on grammer schools, and maternity wards, against which, they stand a fighting chance.

 

Fate is not kind to dictators who lead their countries into unsuccessful foreign adventures.

 

‘me thinks that Russians built A Bridge Too Far

 

Anything the moscalis build is for $hit...."z doornyom rozoom nemah"

 

Kim. Saddam. Assad. Abdullah. Napoleon. Gorbachev. Yeltsin. How many more do I need to name for you?

Have you bothered to look back at history?

Losing a war is rarely the end of a dictator unless his/her country is being invaded. And if you haven't noticed most Russians do not considered this to be a foreign adventure. They still use the Soviet anthem.

 

Czar Nicholas II might disagree. Traditionally Russian authoritarian governments get violently deposed during and immediately after failed external military misadventures.

 

My statement was not categorical, but I think Saddam helps my case. And then there's Mussolini.



From left to right, the bodies of Bombacci, Mussolini, Petacci, Pavolini and Starace in Piazzale Loreto, 1945.

 

Saddam retained power despite all the diplomatic big wigs saying he wouldn't survive after TWO failed invasions. So no, unless your case is that I'm right, this doesn't help your case unless you're rewriting your own history book like Putin.

Saddam only lost power after the U.S. invaded his country.

Mussolini also had huge numbers of Italian soldier losses and up until his country was invaded, he retained power. He resigned and would had lived had Germany not also decided to invade his country.

So, the moral of the story is: don't let your country get invaded by the U.S. if you're a dictator. So, If you're trying to argue that Putin will likely die if the U.S. invades Russia, you have a point. However, if you're trying to argue that failed military missions cause dictators to die, you really haven't come up with even one decent example.

It's simple. Dictator invades country. Dictator withdraws his troops and then soon after, within a year or so, dies an unnatural death. Find an example. I'm sure there's at least one example in history.

 

Yes, the US invaded Iraq. So what? I did not specify any particular process.
Germany entered Italy to prop Mussolini up.

 

I said that fate is unkind, not that they all died.

The Fate of Leaders and the Duration of War - jstor
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by HE Goemans · 2000 · Cited by 215 — regime type of the losing state. The argument developed above explains why dictators and democrats face much harsher consequences

 

According to what videos?. Maybe you share those with us?

 

So, Saddam's failed invasion of Iran was not why he died. Saddam withdrawing his troops from Iran was not why he died. Iraq being invaded and conquered by the U.S. was why he died.

That's like saying Japan invaded China to prop up the Chinese Emperor. Just like China, Germany invaded Italy to protect its own interests - Germany kidnapped Mussolini to protect those interests.

You may not realize that you're moving goal posts.

Sure I'm ok with saying that Putin losing the war in Ukraine is worse for him than his winning the war.

I'm assuming that is what you mean by the nebulous "fate is unkind".

My original statement still stands - Putin does not need to escalate, he can withdraw from Ukraine. The sooner he does so the better his grip over the country will be, the greater the chance he will have of turning the loss into a win with propaganda, and the higher the chance of dying of natural causes. Like the South in the Civil War, Putin may be deluding himself into believing he will win.

 

“Ukrainian officials are poking fun at Russia over an explosion on a bridge linking the country to the Crimean Peninsula, with the defence council secretary referencing Vladimir Putin's birthday in a Twitter post showing the burning bridge and a video of Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday Mr President”
From ABC News, Australia.

 

Yes, they had, but they did not use it. Only visual inspection, which is not effective. Now they will really use the equipment for the detection of the explosives.

 

It's worth a bit more thought I think, assuming he retreats what will happen next, if no actions such as annexation take place the west will still sanction him somehow, Ukraine will join NATO or will be as strong as otherwise, the pressure will go on for as long as he is in power, I'm not sure this can still be turned, Russia will either be crippled and fighting for his lifetime or he will have to go somehow.

 

First one:

 

Why doesn't the Ukraine blow up the bridge, it's Putin's and cost him 4 billion to build.

 

Ukraine s current weapons dont have the range to hit the bridge.
Also, the bridge is protected by AA systems

 

They want to but lack the long distance heavy missiles to do so. So they either have to capture territory to close the distance or find other ways (which is likely what they did this weekend). Russia is claiming giving Ukraine long distance heavy missiles with large payloads is a red line for them and might trigger nuclear weapons being used by Russia do the west is holding back on that. Ukraine will have to be patient and creative.

 

We disagree. And I'm not moving any goal posts. I'm not responsible for your assumptions.

 

That was a lot of explosives to miss. Even if it were covered with bags of concrete for tamping. Bottom line: some Russian alcoholic waved it through.