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Kherson offensive?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by zoom_copter66, Aug 29, 2022.

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  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

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    Did you not listen to putins last speech? Pretty sure us/ Russian relations are done until Putin is replaced
     
    ToughTalk, Oct 9, 2022
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    If we actually had “race based slavery “ for 300 years slavery would have not have ended until 1919. Just because Hitler considered the US a model terrorist nation does not mean you should automatically believe it.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Oct 9, 2022
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  3. Iranian Monitor

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    The US is an amalgam of enlightened ideas (for its time) and utterly deplorable practices, corrupted further by the near monopolistic power it wields. The biggest danger faced by humanity (beyond the obvious whenever you find an imbalance of power) is the failure of the world's most influential nation to construct a new enlightened, redeeming and uncorrupted social contract to replace old ones which have eroded overtime. The latter, along with dynamics that require the US to be hegemonic and monopolistic (in order to refute any notion that an increasing unproductive emperor has no clothes, so as its writ -- exemplified by its paper currency and bonds -- continues to have demand and are adhered to), do not augur well or suggest a hopeful future for mankind generally.
     
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  4. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Is this some sort of defense of the racial slavery USA invented?
     
    Esau, Oct 10, 2022
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  5. USVet

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    The US did not inventanything of the sort.
     
    USVet, Oct 10, 2022
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    Sounded to me like an observation on the poor quality of your understanding of history.

    I studied history up to PhD level in a highly regarded history department and had several refereed articles published. People who struggled understanding basic facts and injected prejudice into their analysis didn't last long where I studied.
     
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    Be serious man. No matter how much you attempt to twist my words into a perverse pretzel of non truths the fact is that no honest reasonable person would conclude is any way that my statement could supports the institution of slavery. I conclude that you were either unwilling or unable to honestly and intellectually respond to my statement so you invented a false meaning to my statement.
     
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  8. ricmortis

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    They both have attributes nobody likes, but Russia is far closer to Hitler's Germany than Ukraine is.
     
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  9. ricmortis

    ricmortis Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. Against Russian seperatists planted by Putin.
     
    ricmortis, Oct 10, 2022
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  10. Iranian Monitor

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    Ordinarily, one would imagine Russia to have started, and continued until the job was done, targeting Ukraine's command and control, telecommunications, energy, transport along with Ukrainian air defenses and other similar strategic targets at the start of the war.
    https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-10-22
    Russian strikes targeted energy infrastructure across Ukraine, official says
    btw,
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/zelen...missiles-in-deadly-strikes-on-several-cities/
    Zelensky: Russia used Iran-made drones, missiles in deadly strikes on several cities
     
    Iranian Monitor, Oct 10, 2022
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  11. cabse5

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    There are people in Lugansk and Donetsk who would greatly disagree with you.
     
    cabse5, Oct 10, 2022
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  12. cabse5

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    These Russian separatists never voted to be a part of Ukraine.
     
    cabse5, Oct 10, 2022
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  13. ricmortis

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    Oh, you mean the Russian seperatists planted by Putin?
     
    ricmortis, Oct 10, 2022
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    70% of the population there fled to Ukraine once the Russian Nazi's invaded. The Russian seperatists are small portion of the residents there. They are only there to create havoc and threaten any residents who disagree with a brutal Dictator in Putin's decisions.
     
    ricmortis, Oct 10, 2022
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    Yeah. they fled to areas of Ukraine where fighting wasn't as intense.:roll:
     
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    Curious, how so?
     
    Lil Mike, Oct 10, 2022
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    I don't think that's considered a good reason to threaten regime change.
     
    Lil Mike, Oct 10, 2022
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  18. ricmortis

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    I don't think the US has to do anything for a regime change. Putin is doing that all on his own.
     
    ricmortis, Oct 10, 2022
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    poor quality??

    How is it poor exactly?
     
    Esau, Oct 10, 2022
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  20. Esau

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    Stating that USA never had race based slavery seems like a defense of a barbaric system of government that Americans had for 300 years (approximately)
     
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    Is this some sort of defense of American governments of the last several hundred years?
     
    Esau, Oct 10, 2022
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  22. PARTIZAN1

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    You are either missing the crucial point or are purposely ignoring reality because I never defended slavery.
     
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  23. Esau

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    You attempted to say it didn't happen if I'm not mistaken
     
    Esau, Oct 10, 2022
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    Silliness on both sides. Obviously we had slavery for a long time .. based on Race.. the colonies - under the British a lot longer than that .. who cares if it was 250 or 300 years .. what does any of this have to do with the Kherson offensive .. so far down some rabbit hole .

    I don't think US was much of a "Terrorist Nation" prior to the war .. albeit they did support Hitler for quite some time .. playing both sides of the fence .. which makes them culpable I suppose .. Hitler a pot calling kettle black.

    After the war however - US did turn out to be the Biggest "Terrorist" nation .. which still has little to do with the Kherson offensive but does have something to do with the war in Ukraine in general .. USA messing with Russian hegemony and security with its terrorist actions around the world.
     
    Giftedone, Oct 10, 2022
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  25. zer0lis

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    Ah yeah, the democracy wanting rebels.
    The rebels that had armored vehicles, tanks and anti air systems.
    Just like any other protesters wanting a revolution, right?
     
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