Kherson offensive?

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    "Helping a fellow democracy" doesn't really describe the US policy toward Ukraine. US policy, as stated by Pelosi and Austin, made clear that we're fighting a proxy war to weaken Russia.
     
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    This is outrageous!
    What happened to the JOOOOSSS ???
     
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    - It's not !
    Anything to keep your mind off Kherson
     
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  4. Lil Mike

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    You know, I could have understood this opinion back in February, when it looked like Russia was going to wrap up their Ukraine war in a few weeks, but this is October, and the idea that Russia would have the military power to roll into NATO countries seems a bit absurd. I think Russia demonstrated it's not capable militarily to be much of a threat to NATO in conventional war terms.
     
  5. bigfella

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    Some people confuse the limits of their comprehension with the limits of belief. A common mistake for undergraduate intellects.

    Its OK. You can't really be expected to understand such things.

    Maybe you can improve your comprehension skills by trying to understand thread topics. For example, a thread on the current fighting near Kherson is not about slavery in the Americas. See, very easy. If you can start getting things like that right on a regular basis you wil lhave taken a vry, very small step along the right path.
     
  6. Esau

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    Slackin!
     
  7. Esau

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    still don't believe you.
     
  8. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Iknow you know the answer anyway.
     
  9. bigfella

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    Thus continuing to prove my point. You don't understand because you can't. Sad really.
     
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    Believe what you want I have the facts on my side.
     
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    I did not say that Russia would invade NATO countries in this time frame. You need to think about the future. If Ukraine fell it would embolden Russia and Russia would be more dangerous. The threat level would increase. Do not fool yourself Russia will take steps to fix it’s military. Russia may be filled with barbaric monstrous genocidal bastards but they are not totally stupid.
     
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    Omg this is an amazing convo
     
  13. Esau

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    Ok champ whatever
     
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    Hey, I'm sure you wanted Nazi Germany, for example, invaded. How is Ukraine any different than Nazi Germany?
     
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    We relented with crimea and look where it got us.

    Putin could take all of Ukraine and any neighboring countries. Get his filthy hands on more global supply dependencies like wheat and down the road when he starts being bullish towards places that do matter to you,. We would all point to this moment in Ukraine where you realize after it's far too late that "we should have done something at the beginning when he tried to take Ukraine."

    No thanks.

    Nevermind that Russia is teaching China, north Korea or any other authoritarian regime that all you have to do to expand power and influence is to threaten nukes.

    So ya. Ukraine right now matters. This was inevitable and the only variable was which country was this face going to be over
     
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    upload_2022-10-11_9-20-51.png CBS News
    How the Kherson region became the new frontline in Ukrainian counteroffensive
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  17. zoom_copter66

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    Hmmm....must be these things called "sanctions"....Luka must be annoyed....what's 1.5 bln rubbles.....about $1000 bucks?

    Lukas turning out to be an expensive whore to maintain
    He knows a cash cow when he sees one.:)
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Ohh...and the world reserve currency should be what?
     
  19. Jack Hays

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    This is what Russian defeat looks like.
    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian forces conducted massive, coordinated missile strikes on over 20 Ukrainian cities.
    • President Vladimir Putin claimed that the coordinated missile strikes were in retaliation for the explosion on the Kerch Strait Bridge, likely in part to curry favor with “pro-war” factions.
    • Russian and Belarusian ground forces remain unlikely to attack Ukraine from Belarusian territory to the north.
    • Ukrainian forces have likely liberated over 200 square kilometers of territory in western Luhansk Oblast as of October 10.
    • Russian forces continued unsuccessful attempts to regain recently lost territory in northwest Kherson Oblast while reinforcing nearby positions with damaged and hastily mobilized units.
    • Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian and occupation administration officials are setting conditions to move up to 40,000 residents out of Kherson Oblast to Russian-occupied Crimea and the Russian Federation.
    • Russian forces cannot supply mobilized forces, likely due to years of supply theft by contract soldiers and commanders. . . .
    The October 10 Russian attacks wasted some of Russia’s dwindling precision weapons against civilian targets, as opposed to militarily significant targets. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces successfully completed the mission of striking Ukrainian military command centers, signal infrastructure, and energy systems in Ukraine.[12] Social media shows that Russians instead hit a children’s playground, a park, a German consulate, and a business center among other non-military targets.[13] Ukrainian air defenses also shot down half of the Russian drones and cruise missiles. Russian attacks on the Ukrainian energy grid will not likely break Ukraine’s will to fight, but Russia’s use of its limited supply of precision weapons in this role may deprive Putin of options to disrupt ongoing Ukrainian counter-offensives in Kherson and Luhansk Oblasts. . . .

    Mobilization in Russia continues to face bureaucratic and logistical challenges. Russian court records suggest that years of corruption and petty theft of military supplies among Russian military personnel has rendered the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) unable to provide mobilized troops basic necessities such as protective equipment, weapons, medical, and personal supplies.[56] The BBC reported on October 10 that Russian military garrisons have sentenced at least 558 men for clothing theft, and have made 12,000 fraud convictions and over 700 embezzlement convictions over the past eight years.[57] Stolen equipment includes millions of rubles worth of goods ranging from bullet-proof vests, boots, and diesel fuel to soap, toilet paper, and socks.[58] The data from these convictions likely represents a small subset of corruption in the Russian military. The governor of the Russian Mari El Republic acknowledged the Russian MoD’s supply problems impacting mobilized troops, promised to fix the problems, and attributed the challenges to ignorance of the mobilized men’s needs on October 9.[59] . . .
     
  20. Jack Hays

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    “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and success of liberty”

    ― John F. Kennedy
     
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    Ukraine is having its independence war.
    Like my home country did hundreds of years ago against Ottomans and guess who? Russia. Hehe

    Nobody takes you seriously if you mention Nazi Ukraine. Its cheap propaganda. This garbage propaganda is for internal use(for Russians to buy considering the history) but for any other people is just plain ridiculous.

    I automatically dismiss and have a prejudice against you if bring up this claim.
     
  22. zoom_copter66

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    Strong message to Dwarfstan?


    https://twitter.com/lilygrutcher/status/1579791477567553538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etf
     
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    Yep! Especially from the bottom.
     
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    The north is equally white
     

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