Judge grants Trump's request for special master, halts review of seized documents

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    And a lower one....bound by the decisions of the 11th Circuit which is caning her crap. See my post just above yours at # 399.
     
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    Actually, the latest appeal is about a seperate matter and I don't believe the DOJ is entitled to 'relief' here, such as the DOJ is not actually impeded by this. Where the government can make its argument about national security, etc. It cannot have even a sound basis as for what the court determines when and how to use its order for the Special Master.

    Since the DOJ cannot plausibly make a 'government' exception, it must be bound by the idea that it too is a participant in our court system. Again, otherwise the whole thing is a sham. If the DOJ and the courts are aligned, and that's the DOJ's position then there is no impartial party in our 'trial system'.

    Without impartiality, we might as well go back to the days of States's decree.
     
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    Tell Justice Thomas.
     
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    Loose Cannon is the starter court here.... She has an Appeals court capable (and now willing) of overruling every decision she's made on this case, that she never should have had in the first place...

    SNIP
    “I just don’t think she ever had jurisdiction,” Tobias said. “She could have kicked this back to the magistrate. To the extent this case had any validity, it belonged there—rather than have this. They forum-shopped to get her. It raises all kinds of issues.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/court-screwup-reveals-mar-lago-084720029.html
     
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    He still gets a pretty good delay here if he has until 11/10 (post election) to file briefs..

    The DOJ doesn't get a full win here until every bit of Loose Cannon's first ruling is reversed and kindly Judge Dearie is terminated (without he and his buddy milking T**** of some more cash - sad)

    The DOJ goes back to their original filter team review and returns any truly personal or ACP documents to MAL and the rest (whatever isn't needed for the indictment) back to NARA...

    THAT's a win...

    Then somebody needs to begin resolving the ADDITIONAL missing T**** regime documents...

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-missing-trump-records-house-oversight-letter
     
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    I guess I'll recycle this thread to keep everybody up-to-date on the stolen classified documents case.

    DOJ has responded to the T**** request to the SCOTUS to expedite something he actually wants to grind to a halt...

    SCOTUS could rule at any moment on this shadow docket request

    https://www.axios.com/2022/10/11/doj-trump-supreme-court-request
     
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    Cannon and Thomas, what could possibly go partisan?
     
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  8. Bush Lawyer

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    I guess it was pretty obvious anyway but now it seems it is confirmed that Humpty had a rat in his house.
     
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    Short and sweet.... Even the T**** legal team should be able to decipher this.......... Well..........

    THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13, 2022 ORDER IN PENDING CASE 22A283 TRUMP, DONALD J. V. UNITED STATES The application to vacate the stay entered by the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit on September 21, 2022, presented to Justice Thomas and by him referred to the Court is denied.
     
  12. Bush Lawyer

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    And Dear Leader Humpty Trumpty came second yet AGAIN.



    SCOTUS tells him to bugger orf.
     
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    And.....the top judges in the nation, including ALL the ones that TFG appointed, told him to go pound sand.

    God Bless America.
     
  14. Izzy

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    Bottom link is the court document that has the spread sheet describing the 43 documents that Trump claims are his.
    It was accidently posted inline.


    "Trump Claims He Owns White House Pardon and Immigration Policy Records"

    "A letter to the special master overseeing a review of files seized from Mar-a-Lago has opened a window on disputes over an initial batch."

    Oct 20 2022
    .WASHINGTON — Former President Donald J. Trump is claiming that nine documents seized by the F.B.I. from his Florida residence are his personal property — but the Justice Department says they are official records that should be deposited with the National Archives, according to a new letter to the special master who is overseeing a review of the materials.

    The letter, filed on Thursday by the Justice Department, describes disputes over ownership and executive privilege claims involving a batch of 15 records that have undergone early review. It likely foreshadows larger fights to come over the main bulk of roughly 13,000 documents and other materials F.B.I. agents took from Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump’s club and residence, in a court-authorized search in August.

    The materials from the initial tranche that Mr. Trump maintains belong to him include six packages submitted to him when he was president supporting requests that he grant clemency to pardon-seekers; two documents related to his administration’s immigration policies; and an email addressed to him from a person at a military academy, it said.

    But the Justice Department, in its letter, scoffed at the notion that any of those materials belong to Mr. Trump. It cited the Presidential Records Act, which says all documentary materials created or received by a president, his staff or his office in the course of official activities are government property that should go to the National Archives when a president leaves office.

    back up their claims that certain documents were privileged and thus could be withheld from the Justice Department's investigation."

    Snip:

    The letter, addressed to Judge Dearie, described the documents in broad strokes because the list is technically still sealed. However, because the list was mistakenly filed on the public docket before being taken down and copies were posted online, it is possible to see with greater detail what files are in dispute."


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    The MILLISECOND I see the phrase "Trump claims", I'm done... don't really care what follows those 2 words, because it's bullshit...
     
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    Speaking of Trumpy The Clown, looks like he's advertising for his future prison wife...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-joked-only-way-scotus-162503618.html

    Stephen Miller is bummed, since he couldn't have been the SCOTUS leaker, but wants that wife role badly...

    Also, dibs on new T**** mental disease.... make sure everybody marks this one on your bingo card (although everybody already has bingo by now)

    SNIP
    "By the way, you have to find the leaker of the Supreme, you have to find the leaker. You know how you find the leaker?" he added. "So, they can't find the leaker. He leaked all about Roe v. Wade. This person leaked from the Supreme Court."
    ENDSNIP

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    Are we already down to only 3 disputed documents (19 pages) now?? Over EP?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-drops-attorney-client-claims-191234931.html

    Sounds like it to me.... Dearie shouldn't need until 12/16 to get through that decision.

    Special Master process is proving much ado/delay about nothing...
     
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    Good breakdown by Ben on Cannon's latest.
    She's already been reversed 2x,
    Will Smith to go to the 11th circuit or let the briefing play out and continue with his Wash DC Grand Jury?

     
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    That's what happens when you appoint someone for their political views as opposed to their qualifications.
     
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    Mueller, She Wrote
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    NEW: Judge Cannon reveals Jack Smith is using an “out of district” grand jury to investigate the docs case. Special counsel filed that under seal to preserve grand jury secrecy. She’s denied that. I assume “out of district” means outside the Southern District of Florida.


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    Who is legally allowed to advise judges when they're writing their rulings?


    'Cannon daring court to replace her after "coming out swinging" at Jack Smith in new order'

    'U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the Trump appointee overseeing his classified documents case, came "out swinging at special counsel" Jack Smith on Monday, striking two sealed motions filed by Smith's team and directing him to address the legal propriety of an "out-of-district grand jury" that is continuing to investigate the case, Politico's Kyle Cheney reported. "Among other topics as raised in the Motion, the response shall address the legal propriety of using an out-of-district grand jury proceeding to continue to investigate and/or to seek post-indictment hearings on matters pertinent to the instant indicted matter in this district," the Florida judge wrote.

    Legal experts raised concerns about the ruling. "Looking like a good week to ask the 11th Circuit to replace the judge," tweeted former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance. "If the DOJ filed under seal certain documents, and Judge Cannon just disclosed the existence of an otherwise confidential grand jury proceeding, we might be at the motion for recusal stage for the DOJ," added MSNBC legal analyst Katie Phang. "I'm betting that Judge Cannon's account of the out-of-district investigation is not the full story. But hard to see how she can justify not sealing her order referring to another Grand Jury. Could this be a possible vehicle for taking her up and seeking her recusal? Not clear yet," wrote former U.S. Attorney Harry Litman.'


    cont:
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=5259447e16e242239f92e4a29619f3e6&ei=40
     
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    Say wha?

    Featured snippet from the web
    (CNN) — Judge Aileen Cannon is asking the Justice Department and Donald Trump co-defendant Walt Nauta to weigh in on the legality of special counsel Jack Smith's ongoing grand jury activity in Washington, DC, which relates to the obstruction portion of the Mar-a-Lago documents case before her in Florida.4 hours ago'
     
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    Just a reminder about Cannon's June 2023 courtroom. lol


    Aileen Cannon—Judge Hearing Trump's Documents Case ...
    Forbes
    https://www.forbes.com › alisondurkee › 2023/08/04


    3 days ago — The judge refused to open the jury selection process up to the public and forgot to swear in the jurors, according to a court transcript ...

    Merely qualified (ABA) Judge Cannon forgot to swear in ...
    Daily Kos
    https://www.dailykos.com › stories ›


    3 days ago — Cannon later offered to let in Spearman's family after the judge realized she also had failed to swear in the jury pool.

    "Lack of experience": Experts say Trump-appointed Judge ...
    Salon
    https://www.salon.com › 2023/08/04 › lack-of-experie...


    3 days ago — Cannon forgot to swear in prospective jurors and violated a defendant's Sixth Amendment rights: Reuters.
     
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    Jesus.
     
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    This idiot has already been corrected by the 11th Circuit once. Now she’s at it again. She should disqualify herself because her judgment is clearly compromised.
     

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