Red wave after all? GOP winning popular vote by wide margin despite incongruous results

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  1. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Question. How long are y'all gonna say this before it actually happens? I've been hearing it for 22 years now.
     
  2. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also the generation that can't beat third world countries in math, reading, and science proficiency. Democrats can't win without dumbed down voters. Anyone possessing the skill to think independently won't vote for democrats.
     
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    It is worthless and everybody in our industry knows it. I won't bother explaining why it is worthless to you because that has never made a difference. Put it this way, this is MY field and MY industry.... not yours. I know what is happening because it is affecting my job. In any event, the WSJ and Fortune magazine agree with me that it is worthless. Read their commentary if you are interested. What is enraging about it is that he could have passed a bill that helped instead of a bill that pretended to help. We would have been better off if the bill had never been passed.
     
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    Its happening
    2018, 2020 and 2022 saw results that don’t track with prior elections. The last time a Republican won their initial presidential election by popular vote was decades ago.

    And boomers are starting to exit to be replaced with the younger generations.
     
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    Just to refresh the memory...
    THESE Sort of "Expectations" (Seen Below) which were being Wallpapered across the Entire Forum (for Weeks) in the Run-Up to Nov 8th:
    ^Just One (Among Many) Examples of Egregiously UNREALISTIC "Expectations" (Floating around in RW/MAGA Fantasyland)...
    And, then, moving onto this paragraph:
    Great...
    So glad to hear that there were no Egregiously Unrealistic "Expectations"...
    And, BTW:
    1) As long as Manchin/Sinema were blocking things in the Senate, there was ALREADY Gridlock...
    And...
    2) IF (after everything is counted) the GOP does squeeze out a razor-thin majority, there still won't be any chance of the much discussed (and hoped for) Sham Impeachment Proceedings (with only a couple of Non-MAGA Republicans needed to Stall the Lunacy)...
    Glad to hear that things turned out so well for the GOP Last Tuesday...:flagus:
     
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  6. Par10

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    The red wave was killed by the reversal of Roe v Wade and Trump not going away. GOP never fails to shoot itself in the foot.
     
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    I agree, with Democrats out of the house there won't be any more sham impeachments

    It was disgusting how they behaved and the fact that some of you cheered that on rather than getting on with governing. Kabuki theater
     
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    I wonder if the map was reversed if you would say that? I am sure here and now, you will say yes to that; but I am doubtful. You would recognize the importance of that one vote versus the millions of like minded people in the large cities like New York and Los Angeles. I will fight for the Electoral College now and always. It is those that don't agree with it that don't understand it.
     
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    :roflol:
    Trump's Impeachments WEREN'T' a "Sham" (and, they were 100% Warranted)...
    Any attempt to Impeach Biden (would be a Sham, Totally Unwarrranted, and the Epitome of Idiocy)..
     
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    thanks for proving my point. Only rabid Democrat voters cheered on the Kabuki theater
     
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    There is NO "IF"...
    [​IMG]
     
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    I believe individuals have intrinsic value and a system set up to dilute the votes of individuals — at the time due to skin color — is unjust.

    I can absolutely say that I would feel the same no matter what the popular opinion is — can you? Would you really say if suddenly the entire system benefited Democratic areas and the only way for Republicans to overcome it would be with 10-20% more votes you would be perfectly fine with it?

    You know it’s wrong, you just don’t care because it is the only way your side can win.
     
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    :roflol:
    Whatever "point" was attempting to be made (in an utterly FAILED Attempt) was Completely Debunked...
    The Trump Impeachments were clearly warranted. Period!
    RW Partisan Fantasies CAN'T Disprove Reality...
     
  14. XXJefferson#51

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    Exactly! We will see what happens when those 27-29 year olds are in their mid thirties, married, and have kids in our public schools. Also the success of the parental rights movement with in schools may well moderate the next group of 18-22 year olds as well.
     
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    From "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" "What is that terrible smell, Big Daddy?" "Maggie, that is the distinct odor of mendacity."
     
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    Which election laws did the dems change

    Im seriously curious on this one.
     
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    Thats a “misrepresentation” at best

    Look at it this way:

    Montanas 1.13 million people get the the same amount of Senate votes as the 50 million Californians.

    Thats a 50:1 benefit for that red state ……..
     
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    I know that they gerrymandered another seat away from the GOP in NM.
     
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    Yea, but Montana's 1.13 million is 50X more sane.

    Seriously, why would you think that the Senate should look just like the House? Wouldn't you think that would be redundant?
     
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    I can say I understand why the founding fathers established the Electoral College and I would never stand against it. I absolutely stand by it regardless of which side it supports. And it has nothing to do with race. That statement is racist.
     
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    lots of Evangelical Christians said they spoke to God and said he promised Republicans a red wave... God seems to have a sense of humor, lol, played them, and they feel for it, God is having a Good laugh on them - either that or they just hear voices in their own head, lol

    heck, in 2020, we had the crazies too.. they fell for the Gold Calf hard

    [​IMG]
     
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    I had been planning on making a somewhat similar post. The lack of a red wave is extremely deceiving. Republicans actually made a few inroads in highly liberal areas that haven't been noticed or have been totally ignored by the media. And, as you said, votes for Republicans overall increased across much of the country, but those gains were masked by the fact that many of these contests didn't result in an actual win for the red team. We had many areas around the country where the blue team won but the results were very close, much closer than the blue team would have liked. If the blue team ignores this fact and buries their heads in the sand, it is at their own future peril. There was very much an invisible red wave that can't be ignored. The country is pretty close to 50/50 and BOTH sides need to form policies that don't trample on the losing 50 percent. I'm tired of one side winning 50.1% to 49.9% and then claiming the voters have spoken and that the voters have given them a mandate to cram their values down the throats of the 100%.
     
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    I agree on that one ! Gerrymandering on either side is wrong.
     
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    No, it shouldn’t look like the house, but pointing out the drastic representation deficit some states get shows that we do not have “equal representation”. I understand that the founding fathers could not foresee the drastic level of misrepresentation that we have today, in no way makes it acceptable today.

    At some point (IMHO) we may need to have another serious “3/5’s of a man” conversation
     
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    The solution is simple. Gut the power of the federal government and return that power and that money to the states. The money and power is then much closer to the taxpayer. Everybody is happy.
     
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