2,318 Mark Meadows texts reveal the plot to overturn Biden's election

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  1. Lee Atwater

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    Senator-elect Ted Budd texted Meadows on Nov. 7, the day Joe was named the president-elect, and shared a stupendously ridiculous message about a batshyte crazy conspiratorial link between Dominion and George Soros. Ted Budd is a senator? Who are these guys and how do they hold normal jobs with this kind of delusional thinking let alone get elected to the Senate?
     
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    Show me the law that Trump violated.
    Did Trump use campaign funds?
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, it's just a guide, and not a bad one, at that. But, I also consider my own eyes, and when I see reportage rife with weasel words, loaded phrases, clearly designed to appeal to one's biases, I'm inclined to believe the reportage is not trustworthy. there are news sources, both left and right, which fall into this category and MBFC is pretty good at identifying them. But, more important, are the pass/fail percentages in the fact checking department. Does MBFC bat 1000? No, no one bats 1000, but if you bat above 900, that's good enough and I think MBFC does.
     
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    I did not want him to be my president either, but that is not the issue.
    Calling them a campaign donation is a stretch. Additionally, Cohen is not a reliable source for anything.
     
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    Democrats don't need to make up 1,000's of texts, they just need to make up one. You FAIL.

    People who go to the trouble of manufacturing witnesses and data files so they can push a "Russia Collusion" hoax are not at all beyond manufacturing a bunch of texts. You FAIL.

    Robert Mueller was working for Democrats and staffed with democrats, yet he failed to find any evidence of "Russian Collusions". His witch hunt could not convict Trump, he inadvertently proved "Russia Collusion" was a scam. You FAIL.

    Democrats cheat to win elections. We see that in the Twitter files and in the 2022 midterms. You FAIL.

    "Democrats lie? You mean like the one told by Trump, practically a year before the first ballot was cast, that 'The only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election? Lies like that?"
    Are you claiming that since you think Trump lied then its OK for democrats to lie? Trump sets your standards? You FAIL.
     
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    I don't care about your "facts", which are simple propaganda. If the democrat talking point was 2+2=3 you would be arguing 2+2=3.
     
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    We agree, The Following will obey whatever their democrat masters tell them to believe. They say "see no evil" in democrats and their drones obey.
     
  9. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The DOJ wrote the indictment document, not Michael Cohen. The DOJ is the source.

    So, you think Michael Cohen would pay Stormy Daniels out of his pocket?
    We have the photocopies of the cancelled checks: Cohen was Trump's bagman, collecting the reimbursment funds from Trump to pay Stormy.
    Here is one:
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    Explanation
    https://www.vox.com/2019/3/6/18253467/trump-michael-cohen-checks-legal-stormy-daniels


    And why isn't he a credible source? The only reason he lied, once, was when he was loyal to Trump, so he lied to protect his boss.

    After Trump threw him under the bus, after he was in jail, he had no reason to lie anymore, and this was after he was indicted, lying would have gotten him a longer sentence.

    No, you are not thinking it through.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, you don't care about facts. Everything I wrote is verifiable, the leaders of the investigation were REPUBLICANS.

    That is the plain fact you cannot handle, and the IG report is online and is a FACT.
     
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    You are tall on allegations, but short on evidence.
     
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    Can I have some fries with this nothing burger?

    Oh wait I'm plagiarizing!
     
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    The truth of the coup plot is told in the 2139 texts Mark Meadows supplied to the 1/6 committee. one text does not prove it. The 'story' proves it.

    You fail.
    Robert Mueller had 100% control over the work product, and his boss was a Republican, and his boss's boss was a republican.

    You are confused about the nature of any investigation. Every investigation has one or more of three possible outcomes, and any one or more of them indicates a successful investigation.

    And investigation is to...

    1. Clear the air of suspicions, the suspicions predicated on evidence, the IG report stated there was. This report is online for anyone to verify.
    2. Provide evidence to the DOJ for indictments, but in this case, a hybrid investigation where the report is due to Congress for legislative action, and referrals for indictments.
    3. or be a combination of #1 & and #2.

    In the Russia investigation it established, in great detail, the Russian interference campaign, and in the final analysis, it was #3, a combo of 1 and 2.

    There is no way in hell you can call that a witch hunt, unless you are living in the Trump fever swamp.

    You FAIL
    There is no evidence, not in the Twitter files, nor anywhere else, that Democrats engaged in a massive conspiracy to cheat on the election.
    PUOSU, as the saying goes.

    Fail again.

    Anyone can tell a lie, all politicians do, to some extent, but no one lies like Donald Trump

    No democrat goes around the country and........

    tells the lie, starting months before the first ballot was ever cast, and he continued telling the lie over and over and over again at every rally, week after week which culminated on 1/6 and erupted in a juggernaut of rage, that democrats sole the election, a lie without evidence, where the
    mantra was 'stop the steal' and when Trump did NOTHING to stop it, he fanned the flame even more when he Tweeted that Pence didn't comply with his
    coup scheme and then the mantra was changed to 'Hang Mike Pence, and when Trump finally put out a video to stop it, he praised the attackers with "We love you".

    No democrat ever incited a mob to attack the nation's capitol in a coup plot to stop the peaceful transfer of power.

    epicfail.jpg
     
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    Most weren't actual participants in the coup plot, but Mark Meadows, Trump, Eastman, Navarro, Giuliani, Bannon, and others were, and it shows their desperation and the lengths they wanted to go through to overturn the election.

    The point is, they didn't like the outcome of the election, that Biden won democratically, and so they were desperately trying to figure out a way to stay in power though Trump and his conspirators were acting on a plan they had cooked up all the while the frantic texts were happening. It's just that the texts are revealing the state of mind of Trump's inner circle of friends, members of Congress, etc., plus their attempts to cajole Meadows in to getting trump to stop the attack, which he waited 3 hours or so to do.

    The actual scheme by Trump is outlined here:

     
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    "Mark, When we lose Trump we lose our Republic. Fight like hell and find a way. We’re with you down here in Texas and refuse to live under a corrupt Marxist dictatorship. Liberty! Babin"

    Babin and his office did not respond to requests for comment.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/featu...ess-about-plans-to-overturn-the-2020-election

    Brian is a 74 year old dentist from TX. He enjoys walking his dog, listening to re-runs of Rush Limbaugh, and fantasizing about saving America from Marxist dictatorships. He will be returning to Congress in 2023 joining fellow members of the Crazy.
     
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    What is the law he broke?
    ???? What is the law he broke?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well I'm happy he has a college degree --and that's as good as any other. And...you don't need a college degree in rating websites to rate websites all you need is some intellect and common sense. In my own observations of their ratings it confirms their ratings more often than not so you don't have the bat 1000 and no one does, what do you is bat 800 to 900 you're good enough in my books. Overall their work product is fairly reliable, especially on the egregious sites like gateway pundit, which is what I'm really concerned about. Those that get "mixed" ratings on the factual scale those I consider on a case by case basis.

    Therefore, your premise is without merit.
     
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    He broke several laws but the one pertinent to this conversation is

    The Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended, Title 52, United States Code, Section 30101, et seq., (the “Election Act”)

    Note that some campaign finance violations are misdemeanors others are felonies and this one is a felony.

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/p...ral-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax
     
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    So. Cohen broke the law.
     
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    Your fake fact checker site is just that….. a fake fact checker site
     
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    Cohen, under direction of and the benefit to Donald Trump, broke the law, which means Donald Trump also broke the law, because as beneficiary, he was reason for the campaign finance violation -- it was his campaign.

    But, for some reason we do not know, Trump hasn't been indicted. Listed as 'individual-1' in the indictment, he is an unindicted co-conspirator. However, the NYC DA, Alvin Bragg, is reopening the case and looking into it. But, this is one among several criminal investigations being made on Trump.
     
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    That is not a competent rebuttal. Therefore, your reply is dismissed until you can do better.
     
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    I don't need your childish dismissal... Your reply is as fake as your fake fact checkers...
     
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    Well you must admit..... this may be the first time the hookers pays the john..


    Stormy Daniels must pay $300k to Donald Trump after losing defamation case appeal
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-trump-losing-defamation-case-appea-rcna21002

    Stormy Daniels Ordered to Pay Trump $293,000 in Legal Fees
    https://archive.ph/https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/11/us/stormy-daniels-donald-trump.html




     
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    That means no such thing. Whatever reason Cohen used was Cohen's and not automatically Trump's.
     

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